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  • cruiser
    What the frack!
    • Jul 2004
    • 6114

    Originally posted by ugg
    On Adelaide radio this morning, they had the 'leaked' list of Power trade bait

    Danyle Pearce
    Brett Ebert
    Justin Westhoff
    Kane Cornes
    I'd take Ebert without a second thought. Maybe we can do a straight swap for Buchanan?

    I cant imagine Kane Cornes going anywhere other than to the Crows (which his father would love to see happen).
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    • hammo
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2003
      • 5554

      An actual trade target

      I am surprised this hasn't been posted yet - then again it is based on fact and doesn't fall under the fantasy trade speculation most people here prefer to dwell on.

      West Coast ruckman Seaby set to head to Sydney | PerthNow

      If Seaby is out of contract and names Sydney as his preferred destination, I'd be surprised if West Coast played hard ball so we could get him for our third round pick. However the interest of Melbourne clubs could complicate things - I guess that's where the $1m comes in.
      "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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      • Triple B
        Formerly 'BBB'
        • Feb 2003
        • 6999

        Originally posted by hammo
        I am surprised this hasn't been posted yet - then again it is based on fact and doesn't fall under the fantasy trade speculation most people here prefer to dwell on.

        West Coast ruckman Seaby set to head to Sydney | PerthNow
        Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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        • Bloody Hell
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2006
          • 3085

          Originally posted by hammo
          I am surprised this hasn't been posted yet - then again it is based on fact and doesn't fall under the fantasy trade speculation most people here prefer to dwell on.

          West Coast ruckman Seaby set to head to Sydney | PerthNow

          If Seaby is out of contract and names Sydney as his preferred destination, I'd be surprised if West Coast played hard ball so we could get him for our third round pick. However the interest of Melbourne clubs could complicate things - I guess that's where the $1m comes in.
          #126 and subsequent posts saying hell no... I'll add to it. If he's depth, fair enough, but I'd like to see Jolly and Currie in the ruck next year.
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          • laughingnome
            Amateur Statsman
            • Jul 2006
            • 1624

            Originally posted by Bloody Hell
            #126 and subsequent posts saying hell no... I'll add to it. If he's depth, fair enough, but I'd like to see Jolly and Currie in the ruck next year.
            Jolly and LRT over Seaby. Hell, LRT and RoK would be lineball.
            10100111001 ;-)

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            • BSA5
              Senior Player
              • Feb 2008
              • 2522

              Originally posted by laughingnome
              Jolly and LRT over Seaby. Hell, LRT and RoK would be lineball.
              It's more about the fact that we need LRT in defence. LRT as a ruckman is OK, but it leaves us very short in defence. Seaby won't carry much value, if we could get him with a late pick (or even better, PSD), we'd be better for it.
              Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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              • UglyDuckling
                On the Rookie List
                • Aug 2008
                • 452

                Jolly and kirk over seaby! In fact i would rather wee man and minny me than seaby.

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                • laughingnome
                  Amateur Statsman
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 1624

                  Originally posted by UglyDuckling
                  Jolly and kirk over seaby! In fact i would rather wee man and minny me than seaby.
                  Attack the groin! The umpire won't see it!
                  10100111001 ;-)

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16778

                    Not sure I've seen this article posted earlier in the thread. Seems to suggest a 3rd rate ruckman isn't a priority in trade week.



                    While a really classy mid or two wouldn't go amiss, surely some of that extra run Roos refers to can reasonably be expected to be provided next year by Meredith and Smith and Bird and Hannebury? Maybe by Barlow or O'Dwyer? Malceski or Buchanan if (when) they recapture full fitness, confidence and form?

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                    • Reggi
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2718

                      Originally posted by liz
                      Not sure I've seen this article posted earlier in the thread. Seems to suggest a 3rd rate ruckman isn't a priority in trade week.



                      While a really classy mid or two wouldn't go amiss, surely some of that extra run Roos refers to can reasonably be expected to be provided next year by Meredith and Smith and Bird and Hannebury? Maybe by Barlow or O'Dwyer? Malceski or Buchanan if (when) they recapture full fitness, confidence and form?
                      My understanding is it takes 4-5 pre seasons to get the fitness necessary to go through a season playing in midfield. Many of those guys will be very inconsistent. We would need two players who are fairly ready and some high draft picks

                      we may end up with some out of form players from clubs in salary cap trouble
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                      • liz
                        Veteran
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 16778

                        Here's a new one...Shaun Burgoyne.

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16778

                          Originally posted by Reggi
                          My understanding is it takes 4-5 pre seasons to get the fitness necessary to go through a season playing in midfield. Many of those guys will be very inconsistent. We would need two players who are fairly ready and some high draft picks

                          we may end up with some out of form players from clubs in salary cap trouble
                          4-5 pre seasons sounds ultra conservative. I realise you don't want to flog young bodies too soon but there are heaps of players in the league playing influential roles in their club's midfield with way less than 4-5 pre-seasons.

                          Suppose Roos and co do find a couple of 25 year olds for next to nothing. They will probably be crap, since no club is going to let a gun midfielder in their prime years leave without a decent trade. We play them, while Hannebury and Meredith and Smith run around in Canberra for another 3 seasons until they are deemed "fit enough"??

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                          • Primmy
                            Proud Tragic Swan
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 5970

                            Originally posted by Robbo
                            Why oh why. Could this mean Currie is in trouble? Can't think of another reason why we would need Seaby. Perhaps Pyke or Orreal will go?

                            I actually rate Seaby and would have him in a heartbeat if we needed a ruckman, but we don't.
                            I have a feeling that Cuz is also being targeted as a kpp, ie. defense. And Jake Orreal has a way to go (back to the weights room Jako, more shoulders, more back, more arms, height ok). So another ruckman is not absolutely out of the question. And we could reprogramme him, couldn't we? Huh?
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                            • rojo
                              Opti-pessi-misti
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1103

                              [I]Suppose Roos and co do find a couple of 25 year olds for next to nothing. They will probably be crap, since no club is going to let a gun midfielder in their prime years leave without a decent trade. We play them, while Hannebury and Meredith and Smith run around in Canberra for another 3 seasons until they are deemed "fit enough"??

                              Agree 150% with Liz.

                              And Jake Orreal has a way to go (back to the weights room Jako, more shoulders, more back, more arms, height ok). So another ruckman is not absolutely out of the question. And we could reprogramme him, couldn't we? Huh? Primmy

                              As with midfielders so with rucks. If we were to get Seaby, when would Currie get the opportunity to develop/play - in another 3 years'? Besides the qualities needed for a ruckman are changing, Leigh Matthews referred to the contest between Darren Jolly and Mitch Clarke (I think) as being the old style v the new style. Maybe Orreal doesn't need to become a Darren Jolly type.
                              Last edited by rojo; 7 September 2009, 02:16 PM.

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                              • Primmy
                                Proud Tragic Swan
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 5970

                                Jake has come ahead leaps and bounds this year, and his final months growth in the game has been outstanding. Don't forget he was recruited a couple of years ago having never played the game! Snuck him in in a rarely used rule. But this kid is 6.10" in the old, straight up and down pole shape, but that's improving. He is never going to be a crumber or a wingman or come flying up from CHB, or CHF for that matter.

                                His ground work (from way up there) has improved immensely and so has his forward line awareness, been known to kick a goal or two. He has proved willing to go to ground for the ball, his tap rucking much better, his confidence has also been reset. But his size and shape and attributes make him a slow developing young man. It will take a bit of time. It has to by the laws of nature.

                                He will never be a Darren Jolly type, his body is not built that way. Think Spida Burton, but probably more flexible, and I think more talented. And better looking. He is a project player, it will be a couple more years yet before we see him as a required player.
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