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  • DeadlyAkkuret
    Veterans List
    • Oct 2006
    • 4547

    Originally posted by Will Sangster
    Cats don't need him and would more likely to be trading out fringe players than in due to salary cap issues.

    It's possible other teams may look at him, although his cousin Tuck who is also up for trade may be more attractive for a team looking for a midfield extractor
    Tuck is Luke's cousin?

    CONOG?

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    • caj23
      Senior Player
      • Aug 2003
      • 2462

      Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
      Tuck is Luke's cousin?

      CONOG?
      Michael Tuck is married to Faye Ablett, sister of Gary, Kevin and Geoff which would make them 1st cousins

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      • RogueSwan
        McVeigh for Brownlow
        • Apr 2003
        • 4602

        Originally posted by DST
        Have you heard of the expression ambit claim...
        No, put I just looked it up and now I get it. Very appropriate.
        "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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        • Steve
          Regular in the Side
          • Jan 2003
          • 676

          Originally posted by Will Sangster
          Which attributes are you talking about? Have you ever seen him play?

          He won't be on an AFL list in 2010
          Which attributes:
          1. his speed
          2. his pace
          3. he's quick
          4. he can run fast
          5. on so on

          Not saying he's a great player but the only players we have with genuine speed still have their training wheels on, so don't be surprised if we go with an unwanted player that is simply available, who may fill a need.

          We have a history of it - Playfair, Brennan, Spriggs, Chambers, Rogers, Bennett, Obst, Brockman, Tingay - I won't keep going.

          We have chased him before so if Geelong let him go, don't be surprised.

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11339

            Working in NSW this week I picked up a newspaper and there was mention of talk about Carlton being interested in Barlow.
            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11339

              Originally posted by Steve
              Which attributes:
              1. his speed
              2. his pace
              3. he's quick
              4. he can run fast
              5. on so on

              Not saying he's a great player but the only players we have with genuine speed still have their training wheels on, so don't be surprised if we go with an unwanted player that is simply available, who may fill a need.

              We have a history of it - Playfair, Brennan, Spriggs, Chambers, Rogers, Bennett, Obst, Brockman, Tingay - I won't keep going.

              We have chased him before so if Geelong let him go, don't be surprised.
              My observation of Tenace is that he doesn't get near the footy often enough.
              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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              • DeadlyAkkuret
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2006
                • 4547

                Why aren't we trying to get Stokes?

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                • 10Totti10
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 443

                  I agree. We should be going for someone like Stokes. Also we should make a move for Blake over Seaby. Both would prob cost us a 2 third rounders, and a fourth.

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                  • Nico
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 11339

                    Originally posted by 10Totti10
                    I agree. We should be going for someone like Stokes. Also we should make a move for Blake over Seaby. Both would prob cost us a 2 third rounders, and a fourth.
                    Totti, are you going stark raving mad?

                    Blake is a fair dinkum ordinary footballer. If Geelong had a better option he would not have played. Thompson said that Mumford tired towards the end of the season alluding to the fact that if he had come up he would have been ahead of Blake.

                    My latest memory of Blake was the ball falling in his arms just on the forward side of the centre square in the GF. He crapped himself and just turned around and kicked to who knows where.
                    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                    • DeadlyAkkuret
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 4547

                      Huge hypothetical here, as we haven't been mentioned in any Stokes trades, but would anyone be satisfied with pick 22 for Stokes? Is that too much? I think he'd cover a pretty big need for us, a very good goal sneak/small forward.

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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11339

                        Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
                        Huge hypothetical here, as we haven't been mentioned in any Stokes trades, but would anyone be satisfied with pick 22 for Stokes? Is that too much? I think he'd cover a pretty big need for us, a very good goal sneak/small forward.
                        I'm not sure on Stokes. He seemed to play his fair share of ordinary games in 2009, and yes he does play the odd blinder. My thoughts are that he is OK when the team is running and he can run onto the footy, but when the going gets tough......does he win his own footy.

                        Interesting that he was OK to go for the GF but they went with Brynes who was a much maligned player in the eyes of Geelong fans.
                        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                        • DeadlyAkkuret
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 4547

                          Would pick 38 and a fringe player for Stokes be a better/fairer trade for us?

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                          • RogueSwan
                            McVeigh for Brownlow
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 4602

                            Originally posted by Steve
                            Which attributes:
                            1. his speed
                            2. his pace
                            3. he's quick
                            4. he can run fast
                            5. on so on
                            ...
                            I would rather someone who has quick, reliable disposal skills.
                            If he can fly around the field but sprays his passes .... "Speed kills!".
                            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                            • Steve
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 676

                              Originally posted by RogueSwan
                              I would rather someone who has quick, reliable disposal skills.
                              If he can fly around the field but sprays his passes .... "Speed kills!".
                              Shaw had (still has, really) ordinary disposal but we recruited him regardless, because he has added something with his leg speed. He actually looks quicker than he probably is because the others around him are so slow.

                              It's easy to dismiss players for what they're not - yeah I'd prefer Judd to Tenace but we have to be realistic about how we're going to address weaknesses without much to trade away.

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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16778

                                Originally posted by Steve
                                Shaw had (still has, really) ordinary disposal but we recruited him regardless, because he has added something with his leg speed. He actually looks quicker than he probably is because the others around him are so slow.

                                It's easy to dismiss players for what they're not - yeah I'd prefer Judd to Tenace but we have to be realistic about how we're going to address weaknesses without much to trade away.
                                Based purely on 2009, your comment about Shaw's footskills isn't terribly fair. Towards the end of the H&A season I heard one commentator say that he had more effective kicks than anyone else in the competition. Sure, the definition of an effective kick can be a bit misleading and I am not going to argue that Shaw is one of the top dozen or so kickers in the competition, but there was little to really get frustrated with in his kicking this season.

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