Trading talk thread

[Molly dooker]

Looks like we're(R&W Online) gearing up to take him, (Fevhead) not just into the team (player with definite benefits) but into our hearts!!!!

[Robbo]

Two players who had their careers ended prematurely because of their dickhead status, and one who offered little to the club. Not thrilling precedent.

It's still precedent though. I think it's good we don't have a no dickheads policy.

[Robbo]

If Jolly goes then White can be used in the ruck as well as up forward.
Players of the ability of Fevola don't come along very often.
You gotta grab em!
Maybe use a 14 or 28 and a player from the Jolly trade if it happens.

But what about our non-negotiable "no dickheads" policy?

[rojo]

Let's be honest about this, "not the team you thought we were" is a pretty silly statement. The fact is we need to win games and we're not far off giving the Finals a bit of a knock, especially if we have the current best FF playing alongside the next best FF in the making. Yes he is selfish, some things just can't be changed

I know, we all see things differently but there are various kinds of dickheads, some more potentially team-ethos destroying than others.

But I also see Fevola as a possible inhibitor to the development of White, Johnston and Currie. Like Bazz, Fevola is a dominating figure, one of those forwards who demands the ball be kicked to him and you end up with a one-dimensional forward line, a criticism that some commentators have had of Carlton. On the other hand you can have young players like Franklin and Roughhead developing together as a team to become the Hawks 'twin towers'. I would prefer the latter kind of team development. As you might guess I am one of those who wants us to develop a team for the future around our young players. So it is for a mix of reasons that I will be hugely disappointed if Fev becomes a Swan.

[Reggi]

If Jolly goes then White can be used in the ruck as well as up forward.
Players of the ability of Fevola don't come along very often.
You gotta grab em!

??

Name all the 'great full forwards' of the passed 25 years who have played in Premierships compared to those who haven't

Lockett, Brian Taylor, Modra, Jeff Hogg, Gary Ablett, Simon Minton-Connell, Danny Del Re, Allen Jakovich etc etc etc

Only Dunstall & Sumich are premiership players

[hammo]

If I were Fevola I would reject a trade to Sydney. Why would you want to play out your career in the football wilderness with no realistic chance of winning a flag and only a slim chance of playing finals.

Fevola's management should be daring Carlton to sack him thereby allowing him to nominate for the pre season draft. Failing that, Carlton could accept a lesser bid from a club in contention for the flag or he could see out his contract at Carlton.

I'm getting nervous we're going to trade for him. This is one occasion I wouldn't be offended if a player rejected the chance to come to us.

[Triple B]

Can I just add my take on the 'no dickhead rule'.

There is no doubt it was actually spoken of and I'm pretty sure it was Ricky Barham, but will stand corrected.

The thing about it is, it was directed at assessing draftees. I'm pretty sure the philosophy was directed at only selecting mature young men rather than guys like Lawrence Angwin, amazing talent, nothing between the ears.

With guys like Hall, Lockett, even Fevola, they may not have passed the 'no dickhead rule' according to some, but they have/had undoubted ability on the field and had shown it.

The danger with using a precious draft pick on a 'dickhead' is they may have all the talent in the world but there is a strong possibility that as they move thru the trials and tribulations of becoming an adult, they may never realise that potential because they are, well....'dickheads'.

[Blood]

Been a good week so far IMO. Reckon if we can get pick 14 + a Cloke/Dawes for Jolly we'd be laughing.

[Blood]

Can I just add my take on the 'no dickhead rule'.

There is no doubt it was actually spoken of and I'm pretty sure it was Ricky Barham, but will stand corrected.

The thing about it is, it was directed at assessing draftees. I'm pretty sure the philosophy was directed at only selecting mature young men rather than guys like Lawrence Angwin, amazing talent, nothing between the ears.

With guys like Hall, Lockett, even Fevola, they may not have passed the 'no dickhead rule' according to some, but they have/had undoubted ability on the field and had shown it.

The danger with using a precious draft pick on a 'dickhead' is they may have all the talent in the world but there is a strong possibility that as they move thru the trials and tribulations of becoming an adult, they may never realise that potential because they are, well....'dickheads'.

Exactly!!

This Fev dickhead kicks 80+ goals a season. Not so much of a dickhead when you factor that in.

[Robbo]

My thoughts exactly. This so called "no dickhead" policy goes out the window if the dickhead can play. But it's just plain wrong to say we don't allow dickheads to play for us.

[BeeEmmAre]

Add me to the 'Get Fev' bandwagon.
All the arguments have been made, I don't need to add any more.
If we can get a top 10 for Jolly, it makes it even more perfect.

[sWAns63]

Remember there are two clubs coming in a couple of years with plenty of early draft picks to trade for if the Fevola experiment doesn't work.

[Robbo]

I don't want Fev. Too old, we need to look to the future. We have a massive chance to make this draft a sensational one and I cringe at the thought of giving up priceless first round draft picks for a 29 year old.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Wouldn't mind Fev on the cheap, but if we get pick 9 or 14 and trade it for Fevola, we've thrown away a golden opportunity to draft two potential guns with two picks in the top 15.

[Reggi]

Can I just add my take on the 'no dickhead rule'.

There is no doubt it was actually spoken of and I'm pretty sure it was Ricky Barham, but will stand corrected.

The thing about it is, it was directed at assessing draftees. I'm pretty sure the philosophy was directed at only selecting mature young men rather than guys like Lawrence Angwin, amazing talent, nothing between the ears.

With guys like Hall, Lockett, even Fevola, they may not have passed the 'no dickhead rule' according to some, but they have/had undoubted ability on the field and had shown it.

The danger with using a precious draft pick on a 'dickhead' is they may have all the talent in the world but there is a strong possibility that as they move thru the trials and tribulations of becoming an adult, they may never realise that potential because they are, well....'dickheads'.

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