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  • DST
    The voice of reason!
    • Jan 2003
    • 2705

    Originally posted by Robbo
    Didn't trading for the day end like 4 hours ago? Why is this the first we've heard of it?

    Anyway, it isn't great, it does feel as though we've been fisted. But two top 15 picks is pretty good however you look at it.

    So, that leaves us with picks 6, 14, 28, 38, 39, 46, 54.
    Hoping for a little more, but that would indicate that Port and Hawks have put together a deal for Burgoyne so it was no use holding out on Collingwood and using the Hawks as a loaded gun.

    Plus the fringe Pies players was obiviously not what Roos and the club wanted compared to Mumford and Kennedy so do the deal with the draft pick and use anything from picks 38, 39, 46 and 54 to get both of them.

    That leaves us 3 picks in the top 30 for the young talent.

    Possibily could leave a PSD draft selection for Luke Ball if he winds up in the PSD which is likely if Collingwood can't get a decent pick for Davis to statisfy St Kilda.

    As previously said, we lost our No.1 ruckman but still managed to pick up two mid 20 year old replacements and keep pick 6 and 14. I am satisfied with that.

    DST
    "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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    • Young Blood
      On the rise
      • Apr 2005
      • 541

      If we get Mumford for a 3rd rounder, we have essentially got pick 14 + Mumford for Jolly. I'm happy with that.

      Kennedy for another 3rd rounder would be the icing on the cake. I wouldn't mind too much if we had to give up pick 28. Given our often left-field drafting, we may well get the same player at 38 as we would at 28.

      With our room in the salary cap, surely there'll be someone else to follow in the PSD.

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16778

        Originally posted by Young Blood
        If we get Mumford for a 3rd rounder, we have essentially got pick 14 + Mumford for Jolly. I'm happy with that.

        Kennedy for another 3rd rounder would be the icing on the cake. I wouldn't mind too much if we had to give up pick 28. Given our often left-field drafting, we may well get the same player at 38 as we would at 28.

        With our room in the salary cap, surely there'll be someone else to follow in the PSD.
        Put as Mumford + 14 for Jolly makes it sound like a reasonable outcome - decent fringe player that we clearly want and the highest readily available draft pick. Shame Jolly wanted to return to Melbourne but them's the breaks and Roos has certainly done the right thing by him.

        Not particularly a fan of inducing players into the PSD but if there is one club / recruiting manager you wouldn't feel sorry for, it would definitely be the Hawks and the Pilchard. So if they can price Kennedy out of the reach of the clubs ahead of us in the PSD, would be better than relinquishing to a demand for pick 28.

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        • robamiee
          Regular in the Side
          • Sep 2005
          • 688

          Nicoski from the weagles could be avail by PSD, has a penetrating left foot kick....

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          • DST
            The voice of reason!
            • Jan 2003
            • 2705

            Originally posted by liz
            Not particularly a fan of inducing players into the PSD but if there is one club / recruiting manager you wouldn't feel sorry for, it would definitely be the Hawks and the Pilchard. So if they can price Kennedy out of the reach of the clubs ahead of us in the PSD, would be better than relinquishing to a demand for pick 28.
            Now that is naughty Liz, but in this instance it's time to teach Whorthorn and Pelchan a lesson. But it did sound like that Kennedy is happy to stay if a deal can't be struck.

            DST
            "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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            • i'm-uninformed2
              Reefer Madness
              • Oct 2003
              • 4653

              Originally posted by liz
              Put as Mumford + 14 for Jolly makes it sound like a reasonable outcome - decent fringe player that we clearly want and the highest readily available draft pick. Shame Jolly wanted to return to Melbourne but them's the breaks and Roos has certainly done the right thing by him.

              Not particularly a fan of inducing players into the PSD but if there is one club / recruiting manager you wouldn't feel sorry for, it would definitely be the Hawks and the Pilchard. So if they can price Kennedy out of the reach of the clubs ahead of us in the PSD, would be better than relinquishing to a demand for pick 28.

              And given the way they've been outed on the Campbell Brown issue, and stuffed up everyone's trade week last year by stuffing round on ROK, woo hoo to that idea.
              'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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              • lwjoyner
                Regular in the Side
                • Nov 2004
                • 953

                stuffed again

                The Mumford deal should be looked at separately. Pick 14 alone is not what we should have received Pick 48 in this draft means nothing a player should have been involved. This morning on SEN Paul Connors (jolly mgr) saidd they tried to get pick 54 back from the SWANS. Perhaps we need a trader say like the Hawks Pelcen (i dont like his ways but he at least looks after the hawks.)

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                • hammo
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 5554

                  Originally posted by lwjoyner
                  Perhaps we need a trader say like the Hawks Pelcen (i dont like his ways but he at least looks after the hawks.)
                  Hawthorn may miss out on their third big target in a row because of Pelchen's pigheadedness. Don't want my club behaving like that. At least the Swans get deals done.
                  "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                  • Reggi
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2718

                    I never watch Hawthorn 'play' it could be the team colours which are a disgrace

                    I can understand why we would want Kennedy, a TAll midfielder would be very handy given we have JAck etc at 178cm

                    Why would we want McGlynn? Just another depth 174cm player - a Crouch replacement

                    Struggle to understand this one
                    You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                    • stellation
                      scott names the planets
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 9721

                      If we can somehow nab Mumford and Kennedy and keep hold of the two first round draft picks I'll be relatively content with this trade week.

                      I was resigned to Jolly's departure and actually expected to be royally screwed (some sort of last minute 2 later draft picks deal), if we can turn the additional pick into Mumford or Kennedy then I'd be relatively okay with it.
                      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                      • Donners
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1061

                        Originally posted by Young Blood
                        If we get Mumford for a 3rd rounder, we have essentially got pick 14 + Mumford for Jolly. I'm happy with that.

                        Kennedy for another 3rd rounder would be the icing on the cake.

                        If we got those two at that price, I'd call this trading period a success.

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                        • Plugger46
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 3674

                          Originally posted by lwjoyner
                          Perhaps we need a trader say like the Hawks Pelcen (i dont like his ways but he at least looks after the hawks.)
                          Why? He barely gets anything done because he overrates his own players and underrates players from other clubs. He obviously thinks the whole idea of trade week is to shaft other clubs.

                          I reckon we are one of the few clubs that treat trade week the way it should be treated.
                          Bloods

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                          • AnnieH
                            RWOs Black Sheep
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 11332

                            Originally posted by Donners
                            If we got those two at that price, I'd call this trading period a success.
                            I think we're doing very well so far and we'll probably come out smelling the best.
                            Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                            Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                            • Captain
                              Captain of the Side
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3602

                              Originally posted by Robbo
                              I just got this very sinking feeling. I'm going to pray to the Lord Jesus Christ that this isn't the case. We now have the chance to have a sensational draft.

                              Forget Fev for a moment. Gaining Pick 14 and 46 are hardly going to turn it into a 'sensational' draft.

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                              • Donners
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 1061

                                Yeah, in a draft where a lot of the top players have already been taken out, mid-range picks are not going to mean much.

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