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  • RogueSwan
    McVeigh for Brownlow
    • Apr 2003
    • 4602

    #61
    Originally posted by ernie koala
    Agree with your thoughts, except the Lloyd part. Hall is much more your power forward who can stand his ground against any defender, as well as lead up the ground. Added to this, Eade obviously rates Baz, as it was he who brought Hall to Sydney in the first place.
    Hall was at his best on a lead, not contested marking, which is more the Lloyd way. I don't think Lloyd's body could handle a full season + finals though.
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    • Reggi
      On the Rookie List
      • Jan 2003
      • 2718

      #62
      Well the Dogs have declared their hand. I hope the cub assists him to get where he wants to go, been a great servant
      You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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      • cruiser
        What the frack!
        • Jul 2004
        • 6114

        #63
        Originally posted by liz
        The issue for Hall and the Dogs is the salary cap. Reportedly they have a challenge to fit their existing list under the cap, even before agreeing to a larger contract for Lake. They may well land up chopping someone like Eagleton just to stay under.
        And that's how Sydney could do well through trading Hall to the Dogs. We have a lot of room in our salary cap.
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        • Kirkari
          On the Rookie List
          • Aug 2009
          • 1036

          #64
          Aker seemed pretty keen on the idea on Before the Game last night, and very in-the-know about Bazza's likely approach to fitting inton the team, despite claiming to not know where the club stands on the issue.
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          • reigning premier
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Sep 2006
            • 4335

            #65
            Originally posted by DST
            Their pressure skills and contensted footy was great last night and they were better this year than last due to that, but they won't make a GF or win it next year unless they can get a big KP forward that can take a grab when under pressure and kick the goal they needed.

            There is absolutely no doubt now that either Hall or Llyod will be at the kennel next year and they will sacrifice one of Aker, Johnson or Welsh along with Everitt to get one of them under their salary cap.

            DST
            Agree entirely...... A big fwd would of been teh difference and we'd be talking about a Dogs & Cats GF.

            I'd be happy to take Everitt for hall in a trade...

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            • DST
              The voice of reason!
              • Jan 2003
              • 2705

              #66
              From what I am now lead to beleive, any deal we do with the Dog's to trade Hall can involve us paying some of his salary.

              That would mean that we could end up with a better deal (ie an earlier pick or a fringe player) if we agree to take on some of Hall's salary to get him the Dogs and under their salary cap.

              If that is the case, that would make the deal much more interesting on our behalf.

              DST
              "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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              • hammo
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2003
                • 5554

                #67
                Originally posted by DST
                From what I am now lead to beleive, any deal we do with the Dog's to trade Hall can involve us paying some of his salary.

                That would mean that we could end up with a better deal (ie an earlier pick or a fringe player) if we agree to take on some of Hall's salary to get him the Dogs and under their salary cap.

                If that is the case, that would make the deal much more interesting on our behalf.

                DST
                Are you sure? Hall is out of contract so I don't know why the Swans would even contemplate paying part of his salary - even if it were possible.

                Usually clubs pay part of a players' salary if he is traded while still having time to run on a contract.
                "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                • BSA5
                  Senior Player
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2522

                  #68
                  Originally posted by hammo
                  Are you sure? Hall is out of contract so I don't know why the Swans would even contemplate paying part of his salary - even if it were possible.

                  Usually clubs pay part of a players' salary if he is traded while still having time to run on a contract.
                  If it meant getting a better deal with a trade, with the tonnes of salary cap room we've got, maybe it would be worth it. Hell, we'd probably pay his entire salary in exchange for a first round pick!

                  Can you actually do that though? If a bloke is out of contract and you trade him, are you allowed to pay part of his salary in order to get a better deal? Or is that considered cheating?
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                  • AnnieH
                    RWOs Black Sheep
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 11332

                    #69
                    Originally posted by BSA5
                    If it meant getting a better deal with a trade, with the tonnes of salary cap room we've got, maybe it would be worth it. Hell, we'd probably pay his entire salary in exchange for a first round pick!

                    Can you actually do that though? If a bloke is out of contract and you trade him, are you allowed to pay part of his salary in order to get a better deal? Or is that considered cheating?
                    If we've got that much money, I'd rather keep it in our coffers.
                    Kinda like a "future fund" if you will.
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                    • laughingnome
                      Amateur Statsman
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 1624

                      #70
                      Originally posted by AnnieH
                      If we've got that much money, I'd rather keep it in our coffers.
                      Kinda like a "future fund" if you will.
                      It's not the club's money - it's the AFL's.
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                      • UglyDuckling
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 452

                        #71
                        We would have to recontract him then do a trade. Interesting idea we pay some of bazza's wage, the dogs may get a flag and we get a better long term player. Everyone wins

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                        • BSA5
                          Senior Player
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 2522

                          #72
                          Originally posted by laughingnome
                          It's not the club's money - it's the AFL's.
                          Quite right, which is why we have to spend a minimum 92.5% (I think, it's some figure like that) of the salary cap. If they're looking like falling short, perhaps that would be a useful way of getting up and over that.
                          Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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                          • caj23
                            Senior Player
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 2462

                            #73
                            Originally posted by hammo
                            Are you sure? Hall is out of contract so I don't know why the Swans would even contemplate paying part of his salary - even if it were possible.

                            Usually clubs pay part of a players' salary if he is traded while still having time to run on a contract.
                            Correct

                            There is no way that we will re-contract him and pay part of his salary, that is just pure fantasy

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                            • BSA5
                              Senior Player
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 2522

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Will Sangster
                              Correct

                              There is no way that we will re-contract him and pay part of his salary, that is just pure fantasy
                              Imagine you were the Doggies, and were stretching the salary cap as it was (as they apparently are). If you want Hall, you have one of two options: get Hall very cheap and trade Lake under value to relieve salary cap pressure, or get Hall for slightly more and have the Swans pay part of his salary, which would allow you to keep Lake. If I was the Dogs, I'd take the second option.

                              If it meant the difference between a 3rd round pick and a second round pick, and it helped them stay above the salary cap lower limit, I'm sure the Swans would consider it (if it is something that is allowed, I'm not sure if it is).
                              Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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                              • AnnieH
                                RWOs Black Sheep
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 11332

                                #75
                                I fail to see the merit in paying any of blind barry's future wages.
                                I'm pretty sure the club will fail to see the merit also.
                                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
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