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  • Primmy
    Proud Tragic Swan
    • Apr 2008
    • 5970

    We have had a good reputation for doing agreeable deals with Collingwood and Adelaide and Brisbane (witness Shaw and Matner and Bolton). They have someone they can't use, we would like to give them a go, lets do a deal.

    Its only jerks like Hawthorn you wouldn't touch - they are not particularly interested in their players well being.

    When Peb wanted to be traded Swans did try to find a club for him, but it didn't work out. We have never prevented anyone from leaving. Not that they want to in the first place!

    The last to leave voluntarily was I think Scott Stevens, and he made a happy hunting ground for himself.
    If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16736

      Originally posted by DST
      I know it looks fishy and the AFL will probably close it down once it happens.

      But at this stage it's legal and an area the club could use to get a deal for Hall at the Doggies and improve our draft or player position than a straight deal for Hall with salary implications for the Dogs.

      DST

      But is it currently legal? If it is not within the spirit of the salary cap and trading/drafting rules, there is also a good chance that it is not within the letter of those regulations.

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      • ugg
        Can you feel it?
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 15961

        I vaguely remember a rule about not being able to trade a player with x days of signing a new contract. Or perhaps that's another sport...
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        • hammo
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2003
          • 5554

          Originally posted by Primmy
          We have had a good reputation for doing agreeable deals with Collingwood and Adelaide and Brisbane (witness Shaw and Matner and Bolton). They have someone they can't use, we would like to give them a go, lets do a deal.
          We didn't trade for Bolton - he was taken in the pre-season draft.
          "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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          • hammo
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2003
            • 5554

            Originally posted by ugg
            I vaguely remember a rule about not being able to trade a player with x days of signing a new contract. Or perhaps that's another sport...
            It could be in the first year of a contract where you can't trade, which is why you never see first year draftees change clubs.
            "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11328

              Originally posted by ScottH
              According to Rocket himself, they haven't spoked to Hall, but now their season is over they will start chatting with him and his manager to see where he is at, physically, and mentally.
              Some task trying to work out where he is at mentally.
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              • Triple B
                Formerly 'BBB'
                • Feb 2003
                • 6999

                Originally posted by ugg
                I vaguely remember a rule about not being able to trade a player with x days of signing a new contract. Or perhaps that's another sport...
                I THINK that rule goes along the lines of you cannot trade a player recently signed against their will.

                As it stands, a player has no real say (eg. Schneider, Dempster) and if traded, well they are traded.

                I think that rule covers that part of it.
                Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                • ugg
                  Can you feel it?
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15961

                  Originally posted by Triple B
                  I THINK that rule goes along the lines of you cannot trade a player recently signed against their will.

                  As it stands, a player has no real say (eg. Schneider, Dempster) and if traded, well they are traded.

                  I think that rule covers that part of it.
                  That rule applies to any contracted player, you cannot trade them unless they agree to it. While Schneider was initially reluctant to go, after talking to Roos and Lyon he eventually accepted the trade and willingly went to St Kilda.
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                  • Legs Akimbo
                    Grand Poobah
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 2809

                    Originally posted by ugg
                    That rule applies to any contracted player, you cannot trade them unless they agree to it. While Schneider was initially reluctant to go, after talking to Roos and Lyon he eventually accepted the trade and willingly went to St Kilda.
                    A good decision maker, both on and off the field, is Adam.
                    He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                    • ugg
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15961

                      Scott Welsh is retiring, making Hall's move to the Dogs even more likely.
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                      • Primmy
                        Proud Tragic Swan
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 5970

                        Originally posted by hammo
                        We didn't trade for Bolton - he was taken in the pre-season draft.
                        Don't mess with a good post with mere details Hammo!!!
                        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                        • ernie koala
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2007
                          • 3251

                          Originally posted by ugg
                          Scott Welsh is retiring, making Hall's move to the Dogs even more likely.
                          With Lloyd also retiring, hopefully Baz's stocks are rising.
                          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                          • ScottH
                            It's Goodes to cheer!!
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 23665

                            Originally posted by ernie koala
                            With Lloyd also retiring, hopefully Baz's stocks are rising.
                            And Rocca retiring as well.

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                            • Kirkari
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1036

                              Originally posted by ScottH
                              And Rocca retiring as well.
                              Yay!!!
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                              • msb
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 827

                                I am really confused with the barry hall situation. He retires from the swans and says "I cant trust myself on the football field" yet is now prepared to go to another club and continue his career? Why wouldnt he want to continue with the swans if he wants to play football again? He could of turned around to the club and said he wanted to take the rest of the year off, I really dont see the difference in that and what he is doing now by wanted to continue with another club next season. I can only assume the club has forced him out the door, which they said was not the case, I have probably missed something here, but what is the overall reason that he does not want to continue with the swans?

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