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  • Rhys
    On the Rookie List
    • Aug 2009
    • 16

    #46
    I reckon Sydney should look into trading with the crows. They have some really good fit and fast young players such as Tippet, Johncock, Porplyzia, Van Berlo, Taylor Walker. Going by our history with drafting south Australian players it seems like a good choice...e.g. Matthew Nicks, Michael O'Loughlin, Marty Mattner

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    • BSA5
      Senior Player
      • Feb 2008
      • 2522

      #47
      Originally posted by blood_angel
      If the bazza goes to the doggies how about a trade involving Andrejs Everitt ?

      havent kept much of an eye on him but he looked promising

      Carltank are after him:

      Carlton Blues eyeing Andrejs Everitt in trade deal with Bulldogs | The Australian
      Hall and pick 22 to the Bulldogs for Everitt and Guy O'Keefe.
      Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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      • Primmy
        Proud Tragic Swan
        • Apr 2008
        • 5970

        #48
        Originally posted by Rhys
        I reckon Sydney should look into trading with the crows. They have some really good fit and fast young players such as Tippet, Johncock, Porplyzia, Van Berlo, Taylor Walker. Going by our history with drafting south Australian players it seems like a good choice...e.g. Matthew Nicks, Michael O'Loughlin, Marty Mattner


        OK, so by calculation we have to look at a Crows/S.A. player with M as a first initial as our best bet. Followed by an N or a J.
        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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        • Chookbilly
          Sniffing out the pill
          • Mar 2007
          • 393

          #49
          Surely now the dogs will make a play for Hall.
          Their lack of a true forward has shown them up again.... they're right on the cusp of a premiership and can't afford to keep wasting time.

          Had they won tonight they may have fancied their forward line just the way it is.
          Ed Considine's day out - Round 3, 16th April 1995.
          11 Kicks, 13 Handballs, 8 Marks, 1 Goal, 1 Behind, 1 Tackle, 1 Hitout, 3 Brownlow votes (his only votes)
          Ed = God

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          • RogueSwan
            McVeigh for Brownlow
            • Apr 2003
            • 4602

            #50
            Originally posted by Chookbilly
            Surely now the dogs will make a play for Hall.
            Their lack of a true forward has shown them up again.... they're right on the cusp of a premiership and can't afford to keep wasting time.

            Had they won tonight they may have fancied their forward line just the way it is.
            I don't think Bazza would have been much help last night. The Saints flooded back in big numbers leaving no room for the Doggies forwards to lead into. Hall would have been double teamed with a high possibility of another Saint zoning off to help out.
            Still, I reckon Rocket will try and get Hall anyway.
            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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            • CureTheSane
              Carpe Noctem
              • Jan 2003
              • 5032

              #51
              Originally posted by RogueSwan
              Hall would have been double teamed
              That in itself would have been of benefit.
              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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              • RogueSwan
                McVeigh for Brownlow
                • Apr 2003
                • 4602

                #52
                Originally posted by CureTheSane
                That in itself would have been of benefit.
                Didn't seem to help us. We still kept looking for him. Maybe the Doggies are smarter.
                "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                • CureTheSane
                  Carpe Noctem
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 5032

                  #53
                  Wouldn't be hard

                  same old story with the Swans.
                  Only one game plan.
                  The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                  • j s
                    Think positive!
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 3303

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Chookbilly
                    Surely now the dogs will make a play for Hall.
                    Their lack of a true forward has shown them up again.... they're right on the cusp of a premiership and can't afford to keep wasting time.

                    Had they won tonight they may have fancied their forward line just the way it is.
                    I agree - they really needed a target forward.

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                    • RedRosie
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 92

                      #55
                      Think its time for a poll of who will get him . Come on Scott you love doing this stuff and dont have any other priorities on this gorgeous weekend do you.

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                      • troyjones2525
                        Swans Fanatic!
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 2908

                        #56
                        After last nights game and seeing what a power forward like Riewoldt did to them i reckon Hall will be a way more attractive offer to the Bulldogs than ever! I'm not saying that Hall is as good as Riewoldt but he definitely is capable of taking a big mark and goal when needed. The time is NOW for the Bulldogs and Hall is the best available power forward going round at the moment. If they cant win a flag with him there and fit next year they never will! Lets hope that after last night they realize that they need Bazza more than ever and maybe we can play a little more hard ball with them and get a better trade for us out of it!

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16786

                          #57
                          The issue for Hall and the Dogs is the salary cap. Reportedly they have a challenge to fit their existing list under the cap, even before agreeing to a larger contract for Lake. They may well land up chopping someone like Eagleton just to stay under.

                          Factor in Hall and something is likely to give. It may come down to why Hall wants to play on. Is it just about rehabilitation and enjoyment of the game? Is he prepared to play for little more than minimum wages? If he thinks he still deserves a decent sized contract to play (and I wouldn't argue he doesn't) the Dogs may not be able to accomodate him unless they let one of their "stars" go.

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                          • Red
                            Foreign Correspondent
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 651

                            #58
                            Originally posted by j s
                            I agree - they really needed a target forward.
                            What they really needed was to stop bombing the ball long & high into their F50.

                            Their forwards were too short for the St. K defenders, who repelled every single time except a couple that somehow fell into Brad's hands.

                            I don't know why 'master tactician' Rocket didn't change something up either by moving players or ordering the delivery forward low, or even along the ground.

                            Footscray will learn the hard way about Eade, as we had to. Good enough for close, but never quite all the way.
                            To all those people who waited 72 years to see a South Melbourne/Sydney Swans premiership HERE IT IS!!

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                            • DST
                              The voice of reason!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2705

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Red
                              What they really needed was to stop bombing the ball long & high into their F50.

                              Their forwards were too short for the St. K defenders, who repelled every single time except a couple that somehow fell into Brad's hands.

                              I don't know why 'master tactician' Rocket didn't change something up either by moving players or ordering the delivery forward low, or even along the ground.

                              Footscray will learn the hard way about Eade, as we had to. Good enough for close, but never quite all the way.
                              Facts are, in the H&A season the dogs get away with having a small forward line and kicking winning scores.

                              When it comes to finals and the pressure (real and perceived) is on, going long to a target man to either mark or bring it to ground is the difference between making a GF and winning one or not.

                              It was never more evident than last night when under pressure from the Saints that went longer to a two on one in their forward line and the Saints were able to either mark or bring it back out again.

                              Their pressure skills and contensted footy was great last night and they were better this year than last due to that, but they won't make a GF or win it next year unless they can get a big KP forward that can take a grab when under pressure and kick the goal they needed.

                              There is absolutely no doubt now that either Hall or Llyod will be at the kennel next year and they will sacrifice one of Aker, Johnson or Welsh along with Everitt to get one of them under their salary cap.

                              DST
                              "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                              • ernie koala
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2007
                                • 3251

                                #60
                                Originally posted by DST
                                Facts are, in the H&A season the dogs get away with having a small forward line and kicking winning scores.

                                When it comes to finals and the pressure (real and perceived) is on, going long to a target man to either mark or bring it to ground is the difference between making a GF and winning one or not.

                                It was never more evident than last night when under pressure from the Saints that went longer to a two on one in their forward line and the Saints were able to either mark or bring it back out again.

                                Their pressure skills and contensted footy was great last night and they were better this year than last due to that, but they won't make a GF or win it next year unless they can get a big KP forward that can take a grab when under pressure and kick the goal they needed.

                                There is absolutely no doubt now that either Hall or Llyod will be at the kennel next year and they will sacrifice one of Aker, Johnson or Welsh along with Everitt to get one of them under their salary cap.

                                DSTmuch
                                Agree with your thoughts, except the Lloyd part. Hall is much more your power forward who can stand his ground against any defender, as well as lead up the ground. Added to this, Eade obviously rates Baz, as it was he who brought Hall to Sydney in the first place.
                                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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