Bazza is off to ...

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Yep, go hard. What do we have to lose? If pick 63 is their offer we can happily let him to into the PSD and I wouldn't rule Carlton out. You can't tell me Bazza wouldn't go to Carlton if they wanted him, Bulldogs can continue to just fall short for another 2-3 years.

[RedRosie]

Yep and I wouldnt count out Essendon either. Love the way the article says "But the Dogs will refuse to budge on what they regard as an ambit claim for the 32-year-old key forward, who was pushed out by the Swans." There is no proof of that ! What does Barry get? 650K. Suppose he will need it if he has to pay his own fines. This whole article makes it sound like the club are making it very hard for Barry, what a crock of

[sWAns63]

Anyone who watched the game where the Bulldogs got eliminated by the Saints would of thought that Bazza would of probably got them over the line.
Pick 31 is realistic if they keep on offering crumbs put him in the draft and let some of the other hopefuls have a shot.
The Bulldogs have to decide if they really want to win a flag next season or get bundled out in the finals again, maybe it's their last chance.....they wont win a flag without Bazza.

[cruiser]

If the Dogs arent prepared to spend pick 32 to considerably improve their chances of a GF appearance and maybe a premiership they can go lose another PF for all I care.

[liz]

Can't see the point in trading him for a late 4th round pick. It is worth practically nothing. So unless the number one aim of the Swans is to help Barry do what he wants, we might just as well let him go for nothing.

It will likely come down to whether any other club really has a interest in him - not necessarily as a trade but if he comes as a freebie in the draft. If so, or even if the Dogs think there might be, they'll come up with something more than that.

[Plugger46]

Very interesting post Legs. Hall was on SEN this arvo and what struck me was that he cited the Swans game plan as restricting him and that he had tired of Sydney. No accountability for his own actions at all. The condescending way he referred to the game plan reminded me of the sooky la la antics he displayed if the ball wasn't kicked to him. He almost seemed to be blaming the game plan for his inability to reach his full potential. It sounded as if he just expects it all to happen with the likes of Higgins and Cooney hitting him on the chest with ridiculous regularity. So it was a suitable game plan when we won the flag but it is not now, just to suit his position and argument.

No mention of the Swans taking him in and making a player of him after his non descript career at St Kilda. No mention of his female issues that seemed to side track him regularly and again he couldn't promise that his onfield demenour would change. Then he contradicted himself by saying he wouldn't be going to the Dogs if he didn't think he could turn himself around.

Makes me certain that as you said, there was more going on behind the scenes.

He was pushed out of a club by people who didn't want him to be there, while some of his teammates and coaches took pot-shots at him in the media. Since then, he's been fairly quiet and hasn't said all that much about the club so I really don't think he could've handled himself much better.

As for the game-plan part, he's probably just trying to put a positive spin on going to the Bulldogs.

As for the 'Swans taking him in' - what a load of rubbish. The guy was already a quality player and we gave up plenty for him. We weren't throwing him a lifeline or anything. He topped the goalkicking 7 times and was arguably our most important player through one of our most successful periods. He offered great service and owes the club nothing.

Why should he have to discuss his love-life in the media? Totally irrelevant to anything football. 'Seemed to side-track him' - you actually wouldn't have a clue.

[573v30]

Pick 63??? You've got to be kidding me...

[RedRosie]

He was quite ok about the bulldogs thing when he was selling himself again on BTG. Any one else feel Spider was having a go at him ignoring him and singing Three Cheer while with the St Kilda supporters .

[2005]

After watching Bazza on Before The Game, he is still issues with his temper


He got grilled by comedians and wanna be funnymen last night on a light hearted show about his temper issues and he was very uncomfortable and wasnt taking it that well either. He will be under the microscope big time with the Melbourne Media when he starts playing again , constant scrutiny day after day. Its an issue he will have to deal with all the time.

By the way Plugger the Swans did take him in , he has said it before on numerous occasions. He was finished with the Saints
We gave extended time in the AFL, that he wouldnt of got at the Saints.
We did save a football career with him, no doubt about it.
Agree that he owes us nothing now, he was a vital cog in what we achieved as a club in 2005 and gave us some wonderful football, though the same ideas and principals that gave him a premiership, gave him the captaincy , gave him more years at the top level, gave him a say in our ethos & were the same ideas and principals that bought him undone.
Wish we still had him ,really do, fact is hes gone.
We have every right now to get what we want for him , Im sure the club will look after Barry, more importantly we must look after ourselves

[CureTheSane]

One minute most people here are happy to completely dump Hall from the side and let him drift off into AFL nothingness.

Now, everyone is in debate about what we should be getting for him.

Surely those who advocate his dismissal from the Swans (and therefore, based on his behaviour, AFL in general) should be sticking to their guns and suggesting that Barry should not be playing for any team because of his anger issues and be demanding that he is simply delisted.

[caj23]

One minute most people here are happy to completely dump Hall from the side and let him drift off into AFL nothingness.

Now, everyone is in debate about what we should be getting for him.

Surely those who advocate his dismissal from the Swans (and therefore, based on his behaviour, AFL in general) should be sticking to their guns and suggesting that Barry should not be playing for any team because of his anger issues and be demanding that he is simply delisted.

What a ridiculous argument, I don't want him playing for the Sydney Swans, I dont give a toss what the other 15 clubs do with their playing roster

He now has some value for us and we should be getting the best offer we can for him.

[CureTheSane]

What a ridiculous argument, I don't want him playing for the Sydney Swans, I dont give a toss what the other 15 clubs do with their playing roster

He now has some value for us and we should be getting the best offer we can for him.

Well, considering most of those statements were made from a moral standpoint, not so ridiculous.

Your standpoint on Hall, Mr. Will, seems to have been "no good for the Swans but he can play for some other team"
Fair enough.

Many other POV's were that Hall should have 'left the Swans' because of his actions on field being 'unsportsmanlike' or 'not in the best interests of the game' or whatever, and now everyone seems to see him as being someone who is still worth of playing football.
Kinda can't have it both ways.

Swans should negotiate a one year deal with him - behaviour based of course.
Considering the number of draft selections we already have, and what we would potentially get for him, it makes sense to me.

[ScottH]

I've seen more of Hall on TV (excluding games, news, and tribunals) in the last week, than I have in his entire career.

His managers must be trying to endear him to the Melbourne public again.

BTW 2005, i thought he looked quite comfortable on BTG last night.

[Donners]

Swans should negotiate a one year deal with him - behaviour based of course.

That obviously can't happen, since those bridges have been well and truly burned and urinated upon (South Park or Untouchables reference, take your pick).

Many other POV's were that Hall should have 'left the Swans' because of his actions on field being 'unsportsmanlike' or 'not in the best interests of the game' or whatever, and now everyone seems to see him as being someone who is still worth of playing football.
Kinda can't have it both ways.

It was by his own admission that he couldn't trust himself, regardless of what people here thought. No club should keep a player on in those circumstances. For some reason, he is now able to control himself - or thinks he can - sufficiently to play. Since his departure from Sydney is inevitable, we may as well get some compensation for the fact that we will now have to face him.

[Nico]

He was pushed out of a club by people who didn't want him to be there, while some of his teammates and coaches took pot-shots at him in the media. Since then, he's been fairly quiet and hasn't said all that much about the club so I really don't think he could've handled himself much better.

As for the game-plan part, he's probably just trying to put a positive spin on going to the Bulldogs.

As for the 'Swans taking him in' - what a load of rubbish. The guy was already a quality player and we gave up plenty for him. We weren't throwing him a lifeline or anything. He topped the goalkicking 7 times and was arguably our most important player through one of our most successful periods. He offered great service and owes the club nothing.

Why should he have to discuss his love-life in the media? Totally irrelevant to anything football. 'Seemed to side-track him' - you actually wouldn't have a clue.

I have never said he didn't give us great service. I was making comment on what he said, and again there appeared to be no accountability and the fault was elsewhere.