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  • BSA5
    Senior Player
    • Feb 2008
    • 2522

    #16
    Ball is likely, but you never know. Melbourne and Richmond have plenty of room, but won't soonish, and if the Swans get in his ear and he puts a high price and long contract on his head, he might make it. I reckon Maguire, if he goes in (have there been whispers? I would have thought St. Kilda would have made sure they kept him), is a decent chance of making it through, and he'd be very handy!
    Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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    • Rob-bloods
      What a year 2005 SSFC/CFC
      • Aug 2003
      • 931

      #17
      Rhan Hooper, Cleve Hughes are likely too, can't see Spangher there myself I think he would've been traded if available, Coughlan will nominate and Nathan Brown has indicated he will too.

      When salary caps are finalised there may be more fall out, word is Wojinski will stay now Milford has left.
      Sports do not build character. They reveal it....Heywood Broun

      I always turn to the sports pages first, which record people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures......Earl Warren

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      • SimonH
        Salt future's rising
        • Aug 2004
        • 1647

        #18
        Lots of players and their agents are happy to put rumours out there at this time of year, that if they can't reach contractual agreement with their club, they'll walk to the PSD. In over 90% of cases, it's just a negotiating tactic, they eventually sign, and it never happens.

        We don't generally save a pick for the PSD 'just in case', and nor should we. You only save it if you have a particular player in mind, and a fair chance of getting him. You certainly don't structure your delistings or your ND strategy around the vague hope that a good player might yet fall into the PSD.

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        • DeadlyAkkuret
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2006
          • 4547

          #19
          I'll be disappointed if we don't try to get Luke Ball, surely we can beat any offer the Dees are prepared to put to him.

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          • Primmy
            Proud Tragic Swan
            • Apr 2008
            • 5970

            #20
            Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
            I'll be disappointed if we don't try to get Luke Ball, surely we can beat any offer the Dees are prepared to put to him.
            There appears to be "issues" between Rossy L and L Ball, and if that is the case then I cannot see Roosy/Horse picking up the tab.

            I would love to see Goose in Sydney. Can't see him relocating from Melbourne.

            Why hasn't Spangher done better by now? Anyone?
            If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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            • top40
              Regular in the Side
              • May 2007
              • 933

              #21
              For value I would pick Tuck. But the Swans are blessed now with plenty of midfielders for 2010: R. O?Keefe, Kirk, McVeigh, Jack, J. Bolton, Smith, Kennedy, Hannebery, McGlynn, Bird, Meredith.

              What Sydney needs is a tall forward, herein the cupboard is pretty threadbare. None of the above mentioned are forwards. The only one who is AFL standard tall is Matthew Spangher, who is 193 cm. He is also only 22 years old. Tall defenders like Spangher can always convert into tall forwards. He also doesn't appear to have any injury problems in recent years.

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              • stellation
                scott names the planets
                • Sep 2003
                • 9718

                #22
                If Matt Spangher is available I'd snaffle him up happily enough, I'm not sure he'll be a superstar but I do think he can be serviceable fringe 22 player next year in a position we need and I could see him securing a regular spot over the next couple of seasons. He was a well respected junior as well, worth the gamble in my opinion (although I do fear where he went to school may upset Reggi!).

                His age helps a lot too because it fits in with our trading strategy of the week. If we had signed Fev or Lake I'd say "great, go hard for Ball" but the reality is we didn't. I think Ball is the pick talent wise of the crop, but the midfield's pretty covered.

                The only outside is that I thought he wanted to go home to Victoria, would Sydney be close enough?
                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                • Reggi
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2718

                  #23
                  Originally posted by stellation
                  (although I do fear where he went to school may upset Reggi!).
                  Catholic Colleges are fine

                  Gee Chris Scott, Brad Scott and Ryan O'Keefe went to St Kevins. Richards, Hanners & Kennedy to Xavier (Schauble to IIRC)

                  Never recruit the Scotch College or Grammar boys though (goes for work as well), was sage advice from a previous boss who threw their resume's away

                  Yes there are exceptions that prove the rule

                  Like big lumps of lads from Bunyip though
                  You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                  • stellation
                    scott names the planets
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 9718

                    #24
                    Originally posted by mcs
                    I'd love to have Wojcinkski at Sydney- a very underated player when playing well imo.
                    I like David, and agree that he is underrated (I don't think he's ever really been given a chance to truly shine due to how star studded Geelong are with players of his size), but I think he's about 5 years too old to go for (in my opinion) for what he can offer.

                    Reports out of Geelong this morning suggest the Cats think they can sign him to a new contract (thanks to our trading for Mumford, amusingly enough).
                    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                    • hammo
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 5554

                      #25
                      Originally posted by top40
                      For value I would pick Tuck. But the Swans are blessed now with plenty of midfielders for 2010: R. O?Keefe, Kirk, McVeigh, Jack, J. Bolton, Smith, Kennedy, Hannebery, McGlynn, Bird, Meredith.

                      What Sydney needs is a tall forward, herein the cupboard is pretty threadbare. None of the above mentioned are forwards. The only one who is AFL standard tall is Matthew Spangher, who is 193 cm. He is also only 22 years old. Tall defenders like Spangher can always convert into tall forwards. He also doesn't appear to have any injury problems in recent years.
                      As you've basically pointed out, Tuck would never get a game - and rightly so.

                      Why do we need a tall forward? We have White, Goodes and Seaby with Currie and Johnston likely to play a role this year as well.
                      "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                      • Reggi
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2718

                        #26
                        Originally posted by hammo
                        As you've basically pointed out, Tuck would never get a game - and rightly so.

                        Why do we need a tall forward? We have White, Goodes and Seaby with Currie and Johnston likely to play a role this year as well.
                        I am a bit flummoxed by this as well. I think we probably would like another 185CM lead/ up/ good marking forward pocket type, but not a tall.

                        Anyway Kinnear Beatson said it better than we attached a really good article from a few years ago on this his comments are towards the back

                        You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                        • jono2707
                          Goes up to 11
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 3326

                          #27
                          Originally posted by hammo
                          As you've basically pointed out, Tuck would never get a game - and rightly so.

                          Why do we need a tall forward? We have White, Goodes and Seaby with Currie and Johnston likely to play a role this year as well.
                          Dont forget we have Reg Grundy too - although he has done really well down back this season, we drafted him as a forward and there's no reason that he wouldn't do ok if moved forward at any stage next year.

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                          • msb
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 827

                            #28
                            Are we even going to be in the PSD? We havent been in it for a few years now

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                            • 10Totti10
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 443

                              #29
                              Originally posted by jono2707
                              Dont forget we have Reg Grundy too - although he has done really well down back this season, we drafted him as a forward and there's no reason that he wouldn't do ok if moved forward at any stage next year.
                              Reg has officially become a backman. He has shown that that is his new role. He even now kicks like a backman for goal.

                              Plus, why do people want wojcinski? He will be 30 next year. Its not like he will be 26. We cant just keep stocking on 29-30 yr old players. Plus we already have a player that plays a similar role and thats Shaw.

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                              • Triple B
                                Formerly 'BBB'
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 6999

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Reggi
                                I am a bit flummoxed by this as well. I think we probably would like another 185CM lead/ up/ good marking forward pocket type, but not a tall.
                                Reggi, we have one.

                                You know who I'm going to say and I know you will throw in a or with some vague reference to 'never recruit a private school boy' .

                                He is quick on the lead, as strong an overhead mark as anybody in the club (ROK included) and can kick goals from outside 50 as well.

                                Just on his body. He had his usual hamstring problems earlier in the year but appeared to overcome them (admittedly, overcome them yet again) and was playing footy to a level which would have him knocking on the door for senior selection. He then hurt his bloody ankle in a marking contest in the ressies played the day after the Bulldogs game. . Again he fought back and his form late in the season was again real good. I guess my point was the mid season injury was not his troublesome hamstring which may give hope for the future in regards to him standing up to the rigours of AFL.

                                As I said, if DOK is retained and Laidlaw delisted, I will be extremely disappointed and I doubt any regular watcher of the ressies would see it any different.
                                Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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