Mitchell watch

[dimelb]

Reid or Rohan.
You may keep only one.
Who do you choose?

At present, the red one.

[kilroy]

Reid or Rohan.
You may keep only one.
Who do you choose?

Easy, Rohan

The Reids are injury prone.

[penga]

Didn't we overpay for him in the first place, which means he is expecting a proportionate pay raise that rookies get when they become regulars, which would push him to one of the highest earners in the club. Not worth it, IMO. Let him waddle around the bottom of the ladder.

[Cheer_Cheer]

I have a feeling he isn't Horses favourite player. That goal that he spoiled of Roses the other day was a very selfish piece of play and Horse didn't look too pleased.

[aardvark]

I'd be sad if Rohan went, I don't really care about Mitchell or Reid. They're both overrated and over paid in my book.

[jono2707]

I have a feeling he isn't Horses favourite player. That goal that he spoiled of Roses the other day was a very selfish piece of play and Horse didn't look too pleased.

Of course Horse wasn't pleased because he stuffed it up. However Tom is a see ball get ball player and in the context of the moment of that (very wet) game, he was too focused on getting the ball through. Yes he needs to learn from that but I thought the commentators were way too harsh - and judging Tom from that one incident and a commentator's take on it is too harsh.

[waswan]

Someone said Rohan is under contract ? That's easy then, give us Lachie Henderson or get him next year and we get compensated
Reid is about 400K worth if fit, nothing more. He had been on overs
Mitchell may have had a big contract but I suspect it had a large match payment component which is, in-part, why he stayed in the 2's
He is worth about the same as Reid but I reckon Sydney would want to do a long term deal for him so they can back-end him. He probably only wants 3yrs on good money which doesn't work with out list atm
If they are talking to Hurley surely there is money available, id like to get him but I wouldn't be a top payer for his services, he is not an A Grader yet

[kilroy]

Is Tommy really that valuable in a team where we have enough inside extractors? I have to admit i get frustrated with Tom. As nice as his 30 35 40 35 numbers are, he has burnt a few players already with bad kicks and bad decision making. I am not a fan of his kicking either, tends to bomb it and then turn it over.

What do Carlton have that we need?

[Levii3]

Losing Mitchell won't be that big a loss because Issac will play more midfield next year and he's a better player than Mitchell and Rose and Papley will fill the void forward.. Plus the obvious benefit of cap space which we can use to get Hurley or Tom McDonald

[waswan]

Hopefully we are chasing Hibberd, racking left footer off the back flank just what we need

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Give them Mitchell and Reid for Weitering

[Industrial Fan]

Might be interesting reading this thread if he follows through and re-signs. Wouldn't give him away by any means, but agree that if he puts off contract talks till year end he is gone. That's a well worn play book, from buddy, danger, judd etc

[Flying South]

In fairness, those guys got long-term deals on big money - which makes showing your loyalty a bit easier.

Personally I think it's just a bit uncomfortable now, as opposed to being a major issue. Mitchell hasn't been putting off talking about a new contract for 12+ months which is the usual precursor to then 'let's just now wait until the end of the year' once you get into that final year of he contract.

Seemingly nor have the club been delaying things like we did with Mumford knowing we couldn't fit him in.

If Carlton have recently thrown a lot more money at him, I think it's fair all parties re-assess things - but for Mitchell that also includes whether he really wants to leave the Swans, what's actually best for his football, likelihood of future team success, how different it is having inferior players playing around you etc etc.

I think it would still be a fair assumption to say the clear preference for Mitchell and his manager is to do a deal with Sydney. It's hard to understand why Carlton would make him an astronomical offer - he's not a Dangerfield - so there is likely still hope we can get closer to the number they want (which given all the other factors should be in our favour already, would get a deal done).

I don?t believe that Carlton are as far away from a finals side as a lot of others. They are sitting equal 9th on the ladder. Mitchell may not be their Dangerfield, but they already have their next Fyfe in Cripps. Team him up with Mitchell and they have both the inside and outside guns that their midfield needs for their rejuvenation. Murphy and Gibbs will be around for a bit as they are only 28 and 27 respectively. Add some good young up and coming midfielders in Buckley, Curnow, Graham and Cunningham. And they will be able to build a very solid defence around Weitering, Jaksch, Plowman and Docherty. Their forward line is the obvious weakness. They will be looking to trade in a big forward target as well. Which will make them reluctant to trade us their 1st round pick in order to secure that forward from another club. They may try to get Mitchell in the PSD. I?ve got a feeling they are offering Mitchell a long term big dollar contract, something in the order of a 5yr $3.5m contract. We won?t match it, they won?t trade, he will go into the PSD, the money they are offering will deter other clubs and they will get their man without trading their 1st round pick.

We can?t and should not match that offer for a number of reasons;

- worse case he leaves, we will feel that we have other players to cover that inside role. Mills and Jones come to mind.
- Tippet?s form warrants another sizeable contract for him. Before his injury he was All Australian. And he has become more important to us as a ruckman than a forward. Another 3 year contract will probably be in the offering. They were probably hoping that Nank and Naismaith would have developed a bit more to give us more ruck options. But that hasn?t come to fruition. Yet.
- Also we need the cap space to attract a good KPD if one comes on the market.

I hope he stays, but stays here on fair terms. Terms that doesn?t prohibit us from keeping other key players in the future

[waswan]

Tippet is sealed, he had an activation clause in his old contract that gave him to the end of 2018
At $700K and this day and age, he wont slip thru to Carlton in the Pre-season draft, someone will grab him

I do want to keep Mitchell, hopefully they get a deal done
Macdonald would be a great pickup

[707]

.........Macdonald would be a great pickup

Hurley is a way better player than McDonald, wouldn't be surprised if we sprung another Tippett/Buddy and drop the Hurley bombshell at start of trade week!

[waswan]

Hopefully Hurley gets a heap out of Essendon Lawyers then comes to us for 500K

Macdonald was leading All Australian last year, talked about with Rance then Roos starting throwing him around the ground