Mitchell watch

[Triple B]

Yes he needs to learn from that but I thought the commentators were way too harsh - and judging Tom from that one incident and a commentator's take on it is too harsh.

Couldn't agree more. I admit to being at the other end of the ground in the Trumper, but thought at the time that Rose should have shepherded for Mitchell who was on a better angle to soccer the ball through. The few blokes I was with thought the same. I was shocked to hear the level of derision the commentators levelled at Mitchell. Happy to concede Rose was probably winning the race, but it was hardly the slam dunk the commentators made it out...

[stevoswan]

Reid or Rohan.
You may keep only one.
Who do you choose?

Rohan, easy....and I see Ben Reid stating publicly the other day that he'd love to have Sam at Collingwood one day.

[stevoswan]

Give them Mitchell and Reid for Weitering

We really need a like button!!

[Cosmic Wizard]

I don't believe some of the comments here.

Mitchell is 22? the very best years are ahead, and we need to get to them.

There are few more talent players in our side, and he so much he can improve.

Lets talk about getting rid of players to make room for talent like we did with Buddy.

For one, if we are getting in any defenders, Smith need to go; has really lost two yards of pace this year.

And there is a whole heap of players in the seconds going nowhere, Brandon, XX, etc, who must be on more than a rookie wage.

Do a cull but always keep top talent at out club like Mitchell!!

[kilroy]

So we get rid of some list depth and a key reliable key defender so that we can keep an avg paced avg kick and inside player which we have a surplus.

Sounds like a deal to me, 10 year deal at 1.5 mil a year?

I'm not disputing his talent but we should not be compromising our list for him, poorly run clubs behave in that manner when they throw everything at perceived future stars, not us.

[Cheer_Cheer]

The comments about Horse not being happy about that incident were meant to show that maybe the coach doesn't have a lot of love for him. I was not trying to incite debate over whether Mitchell was in the right or wrong. Any after match presser; Horse has never been full of praise for him. I am merely putting it out there that maybe he doesn't rate that highly with the coach ? I think he has been fantastic. Especially his shut down roles on the best in the comp.

[RogueSwan]

... so that we can keep an avg paced avg kick and inside player which we have a surplus..

He is currently those things but he is also our first choice stopper, and a very good one at that, and has some of the fastest hands in the business. He has only played 50 odd games and continues to improve.
I agree with other posters in that we need to keep him but, obviously, the price should proportionate to his performance.



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[WauchopeAnalyst]

Yes CC, for several years Tom has been the coaches whipping boy and maybe he has had enough.

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[Mug Punter]

So we get rid of some list depth and a key reliable key defender so that we can keep an avg paced avg kick and inside player which we have a surplus.

Sounds like a deal to me, 10 year deal at 1.5 mil a year?

I'm not disputing his talent but we should not be compromising our list for him, poorly run clubs behave in that manner when they throw everything at perceived future stars, not us.

I'm not wanting Tom to leave but I'll respect his decision either way.

He'll be a loss and he'll be missed but he won't be irreplaceable, Mills will be a far superior player in two years minimum and there's no way he'll ever be superior to Hanners.

He has a clear choice, stay at the Swans and win a flag or go to the Blues and maybe play a couple of finals in his career. .If I was him I'd be taking a three year deal and then looking at free agency but if Carlton are offering him a $4m deal over 5 years then he'd have to consider it. Remember a serious injury and this guy's career (like all AFL players) is over.

But we can't upset our pay structure and cap position for one player. I'd say we have a final offer that will eke out a few little extras, maybe some sponsorship stuff and the like, but whatever we up will just be matched by the Blues. So, I say he'll go.

Which means we move on, And it means we need a decent trade though if Carlton want to be d-heads the probably can be because they'll have an early PSD pick and not many other clubs would pick him though I'd think St Kilda could be keen should they finish below Les Blues. He's worth a mid to late first rounder but I suspect that he may be part of a player deal that brings us a KPD, though not directly from Carlton but possibly from Melbourne. If Tom leaves we'll have a nice little stash for T-Mac or even Hurley (though I suspect he may be too pricey) and it could be argued we need a defensive leader more than yet another hard nut mid of whom there are man at our club.

[Doctor]

Perhaps the coaches feel that he needs tough love to get the best out of him?

[Mug Punter]

Yes CC, for several years Tom has been the coaches whipping boy and maybe he has had enough.

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Yes, let's blame Horse, what has that guy ever done for our club?

I seriously wonder about some guys on here.........

[CureTheSane]

I'll be pissed if Mitchell leaves.
Swans have invested a lot in to him and only this year are reaping the rewards.
I'd expect a few more years at least fora bit of return.

[Ludwig]

If Adelaide can lose Dangerfield and still improve, then I don't think the loss of Mitchell would be all that detrimental to Sydney. Too many on here are jumping to conclusions that the delay in contract talks means he's going. Personally, I think he will sign a new contract and all will be fine. If for some reason we can't reach an agreement, we should be able to get reasonable compensation for him. There should be a number of suitors. If Treloar was valued at 2 first rounders, surely Mitchell will be worth 1 in the 5 to 10 range. That should get us a pretty good KPP, something we can use more than a midfielder.

As time passes we should expect to see Heeney, Hewett, Jones and Mills all pressing for midfield spots, without any obvious ones going out. I think O'Riordan will be playing an outside midfielder in a year or two to add to the mix.

None of this is a knock on Mitchell. He's a great contested ball winner and has improved his game in other areas as well. But the names mentioned above are also contested ball winners, so we won't be running short in that area for some time to come.

[rojo]

Hanners in interview on 360 was in awe of Mitchell's performance v Hawthorn and seemed pretty sure he will stay. When asked if he and other players would give up some of their pay to keep Mitchell, Hanners suggested that a contribution from Buddy would be enough to cover it.

[dimelb]

Cheeky possum that Hanners!