Mitchell watch

[barry]

I didn't think we wanted Jetta back?

Do you think we'd take Jetta back if he was delisted by the eagles.

Malthouse made a good comment about him on Marngrook last night, that as soon as teams realised that he could be stopped by restricting his space, his game has gone down hill, and he basically has to reinvent himself to continue in AFL.

[KTigers]

We could trade Sinclair for him. Both clubs could say, "it seemed like a good idea at the time"....

[AnnieH]

We could trade Sinclair for him. Both clubs could say, "it seemed like a good idea at the time"....

Gold, KT.

[Steve]

The old brigade said they'd take pay cuts if they have to (in yesterday's paper).

But they won't be playing for $50K and Hawthorn would originally have been planning for at least one, and probably two retirements. Even taking pay cuts S.Mitchell, Gibson and Burgoyne would cost them $1M and I'm sure any interest in Mitchell would have been as a second recruit - not as a No.1 priority they would throw all their money at.

I might be wrong but I read the T.Mitchell negotiations different what most seem to. All the talk a couple of months ago from the club and his manager were that it was a formality, they've obviously gone back and asked for more, and it was beyond what we had planned for. It would be getting tight after all the other recent long-term re-signings.

But I think our negotiating style is not to stuff around, and put our best offer forward (or at least very close to it) first. Usually there might be a small bit of adjusting to meet the player's demands, and then it's signed off. However on principle we couldn't have gone away for a couple of days and then come back and agree to a lot more money - clearly things haven't broken down completely, but I would expect when we next go back there is a moderate change in our offer, hopefully enough to satisfy Mitchell.

It would be irresponsible at this point to commit money that we either i) aren't sure as to exactly how much will be there - in terms of guessing what the TPP amount will be, or ii) are leaving up our sleeve to recruit a decent player to fill a more pressing need.

Mitchell just isn't the sort of player anyone (including other clubs) would pay over-the-odds for. I don't think his manager has ever represented anyone who he hadn't dealt with at the Swans anyway.

[azzzr]

Damien Barrett had some strong words on the rub just now, saying "Mitchell and his management not even responding to the clubs offers now, not saying that defiantly means his going but if he hasn't signed by round 18 its a strong indication his going"

[mcs]

But they won't be playing for $50K and Hawthorn would originally have been planning for at least one, and probably two retirements. Even taking pay cuts S.Mitchell, Gibson and Burgoyne would cost them $1M and I'm sure any interest in Mitchell would have been as a second recruit - not as a No.1 priority they would throw all their money at.

I might be wrong but I read the T.Mitchell negotiations different what most seem to. All the talk a couple of months ago from the club and his manager were that it was a formality, they've obviously gone back and asked for more, and it was beyond what we had planned for. It would be getting tight after all the other recent long-term re-signings.

But I think our negotiating style is not to stuff around, and put our best offer forward (or at least very close to it) first. Usually there might be a small bit of adjusting to meet the player's demands, and then it's signed off. However on principle we couldn't have gone away for a couple of days and then come back and agree to a lot more money - clearly things haven't broken down completely, but I would expect when we next go back there is a moderate change in our offer, hopefully enough to satisfy Mitchell.

It would be irresponsible at this point to commit money that we either i) aren't sure as to exactly how much will be there - in terms of guessing what the TPP amount will be, or ii) are leaving up our sleeve to recruit a decent player to fill a more pressing need.

Mitchell just isn't the sort of player anyone (including other clubs) would pay over-the-odds for. I don't think his manager has ever represented anyone who he hadn't dealt with at the Swans anyway.

Haven't you heard about Hawthorn's flexible salary cap? They'll just change the parameters and fit them all in and the rest of the league will look in on 'awe' of their ability to find space for yet another high $$$ recruit

I agree with those that suggest its all about waiting to see what the TPP might just be before making a final offer.

[Velour&Ruffles]

Haven't you heard about Hawthorn's flexible salary cap? They'll just change the parameters and fit them all in and the rest of the league will look in on 'awe' of their ability to find space for yet another high $$$ recruit

Correct. They, unlike some other clubs, ARE allowed to have everything.

[Melbourne_Blood]

Could Mitchell leaving be a blessing in disguise ? I would love to keep him, but our midfield brigade is pretty strong with Heeney and Mills to find spots in there and Hewett also a potential gun. ( along with Parker, Hanners and Joey ) If we can trade in a good outside player ( or draft pick ) then I think it could be a good thing, structurally , for our team.


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[RogueSwan]

Could Mitchell leaving be a blessing in disguise ? I would love to keep him, but our midfield brigade is pretty strong with Heeney and Mills to find spots in there and Hewett also a potential gun. ( along with Parker, Hanners and Joey ) If we can trade in a good outside player ( or draft pick ) then I think it could be a good thing, structurally , for our team.


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But, for mine, Mitchell has been better than most of our midfield this year. Parker started well, Kennedy has been consistent but not his best, Hanners has been very good, Kizza has played a couple of really good games. Tom has played a lot of really A Grade games and world be sorely missed.

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[Maltopia]

Tom Mitchell's contract talks on hold until end of season - AFL.com.au

[longmile]

Tom Mitchell's contract talks on hold until end of season - AFL.com.au

He's gone

[bloodsbigot]

Could Mitchell leaving be a blessing in disguise ? I would love to keep him, but our midfield brigade is pretty strong with Heeney and Mills to find spots in there and Hewett also a potential gun. ( along with Parker, Hanners and Joey ) If we can trade in a good outside player ( or draft pick ) then I think it could be a good thing, structurally , for our team.


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Suspect you could be right.

[barry]

After today, carlton have withdrawn their offer

[goswannies]

I love Tom. Love the father/son nostalgia. Love his work rate & improved defensive efforts & tackling.
But I don't love that he (or his manager) seem to be holding the club to ransom.
Watching him closely recently, don't love dinky, close in handballs. Don't love the lookaway handball. Don't love the flick the ball over the head under pressure. Would dearly hope he is a passionate player who loves the Swans & wants to be here. But I'm not feeling it at the moment ????

[aardvark]

He's not doing himself any favors playing the way he is. Staying or going he's not helping his next contract.