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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    No justification from me.

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    • Maltopia
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2016
      • 1556

      Originally posted by barry
      They blocked us from trading because we'd ripped buddy from GWS and weree about to get patful.

      Now that GWS are going well on the field, it won't happen again.
      Because we got Franklin, GWS got Mummy for a fraction of what they would have paid Franklin and he has been an overwhelming success for them. They also have so much talent they don't need Patful (not that it was guaranteed we could get/afford him). Shows how much the AFL panicked as usual.

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      • Bloods05
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2008
        • 1641

        Originally posted by Maltopia
        Because we got Franklin, GWS got Mummy for a fraction of what they would have paid Franklin and he has been an overwhelming success for them. They also have so much talent they don't need Patful (not that it was guaranteed we could get/afford him). Shows how much the AFL panicked as usual.
        Yes, but what were they panicking about? That we would get as strong as Hawthorn? Pray tell, Mr Gillon McLachlan, why that should be cause for panic.

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        • Legs Akimbo
          Grand Poobah
          • Apr 2005
          • 2809

          Afl are desperate for gws to be succesful on the field and we changed the carefully scripted plot. Punishment followed. The AFLs conduct is detrimental to the image of the game, the very image that they are so fixated with. Contradictions abound. Reading a post on bf comparing gws draft concessions vs gcs. If gws do not win a premiership then then will be a big surprise. So much given. But what happens after that? They are manufacturing rules to allow a new club to win a premiership. Will that make the club successful off the field? Does it help the competition overall? Not sure it does. Sure they need a leg up and the afl supposedly learned from the brisbane experience but look at brisbane now after their gilded era.
          He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            A GWS three-peat premiership would be better than the Hawthorn 3-peat (maybe 4).

            Its the way of the AFL, since 2000 teams have risen and dominated for years on end. brisbane, geelong, hawthorn, with a sprinking of others in between. If anyone is going to be the next powerhouse, it might as well be a Sydney team.

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            • AnnieH
              RWOs Black Sheep
              • Aug 2006
              • 11332

              Originally posted by Maltopia
              Because we got Franklin, GWS got Mummy for a fraction of what they would have paid Franklin and he has been an overwhelming success for them. They also have so much talent they don't need Patful (not that it was guaranteed we could get/afford him). Shows how much the AFL panicked as usual.
              ... well, not an overwhelming success.
              He's injury-prone.
              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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              • Dooloo
                Warming the Bench
                • Jan 2004
                • 160

                Just found this link. Does Joey know something that we don't???/


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                You Just Do Not Get a Better Grand Final Win Than That

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                • barry
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8499

                  Buddy is worth more off the field than on.

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                  • crackedactor
                    Regular in the Side
                    • May 2012
                    • 919

                    Originally posted by Dooloo
                    Just found this link. Does Joey know something that we don't???/


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                    Are you talking about the last comment??

                    "But if not, I?m sure it?s going to work out for the best for everyone.?

                    Is it a cryptic message?? Maybe Mitchell will go, but we have someone else in mind to replace him? Maybe JOM?

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16737

                      Originally posted by Dooloo
                      Just found this link. Does Joey know something that we don't???/


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                      It's just an almost transcript of his OTC interview last night. Was asked boring, predictable questions and responded in a boring, predictable way with a straight bat. Clearly doesn't have any idea whether Mitchell is staying or leaving. Hopes he will stay. Pretty much what you might expect any of the team to say in response to the question.

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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11329

                        Yep, JPK gave the 5000 AFL accredited journos something to write a Mitchell rumour article. Nice to see a Swan OTC rather than the usual talking heads such as Sheedy and Matthews. Can't be too log before they get trotted out again. Couch cloggers.
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                        • rojo
                          Opti-pessi-misti
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1100

                          I think Mitchell is becoming, or is, a gun midfielder - in time, at least the equal of Hanners and Parks. (Parks has played twice as many games as Tom.) Why would we let him go!! Yes, I know we may not be able to afford to keep him. I know too that the three of them have similar attributes but on the other hand Tom has shown he can shut down key opposition mids with aplomb and Jack and Kennedy are not going to be around for ever. Heeney and Mills will provide the greater run and variety. I am hoping something can be worked - for the good of all!

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                          • Industrial Fan
                            Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 3317

                            He's gone. Bookmark it.
                            He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                            • Matt79
                              Bring it on!
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 3143

                              Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                              He's gone. Bookmark it.
                              Totally agree...I've accepted and now it's all about getting a suitable return for him.
                              Swannies for life!

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                              • Ludwig
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                Originally posted by rojo
                                I think Mitchell is becoming, or is, a gun midfielder - in time, at least the equal of Hanners and Parks. (Parks has played twice as many games as Tom.) Why would we let him go!! Yes, I know we may not be able to afford to keep him. I know too that the three of them have similar attributes but on the other hand Tom has shown he can shut down key opposition mids with aplomb and Jack and Kennedy are not going to be around for ever. Heeney and Mills will provide the greater run and variety. I am hoping something can be worked - for the good of all!
                                I agree that Tom is already a very good footballer and likely to get better. I don't think he will come up to the level of Hanners or Parker, but that's beside the point.

                                I think he's leaving and it's the best thing for Tom and the Swans. It's simply that Tom is keeping other players out of the midfield who would make us a better side. Tom should be the top stoppage ball winner at a club, but at the Swans he will not get the opportunity because of JPK, Parker and Hanners. So he's forced to play more on the outside where his lack of pace and average kicking skills are exposed.

                                Returning to the primary reason why I think he should go is to make room for Heeney, Mills, Jones and Hewett. They all should see more midfield time next year, especially if Mitchell is gone, and I think they provide a better mix with more pace and kicking skills. Their move to the midfield in turn, will provide opportunities for players like Newman and O'Riordan who will challenge for spots at halfback and on the wing.

                                Hopefully we will get a good player in his stead and one who will provide a better balance to the club's needs.

                                I think we should get the equivalent of a pick 5-8 for him. I'd take a first rounder from Carlton or Richmond, who could both use a player like Tom, even if it's one for next year's draft. Hawthorn would be a bit more complicated as it will involve 2 high picks, given their ladder position.

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