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  • Plugger46
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2003
    • 3674

    Amusing how quickly some fans turn. Now all of a sudden he's not a great loss.

    Quality young player. Check out his Grand Final or his game against Hawthorn at the MCG if you need a reminder. He's a significant loss and we should be compensated accordingly.
    Bloods

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      I'm glad he's going. He would be facing a long club suspension for lying to Annie anyway.

      We may only get pick 14 for Tom, which I think is way too low. If Freo get pick 23 compo for Chris Mayne and send that to Hawthorn for Hill, maybe we will be offered that pick plus Hawthorn's regular 2nd rounder. They have to save something for O'Meara. What I think is fair is picks 14 and 33.

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16744

        Mitchell's a very good young player but we're one club who can probably afford to lose someone of his type and not suffer overly. Just opens a spot for Mills to move into the midfield next year. I imagine the Swans decided not to go overboard in matching offers he received from elsewhere with one eye on the next contracts of Mills and Heeney (and others).

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        • Levii3
          Regular in the Side
          • Jun 2015
          • 655

          Originally posted by liz
          Mitchell's a very good young player but we're one club who can probably afford to lose someone of his type and not suffer overly. Just opens a spot for Mills to move into the midfield next year. I imagine the Swans decided not to go overboard in matching offers he received from elsewhere with one eye on the next contracts of Mills and Heeney (and others).
          +1

          Sam Reid is an interesting one free agent next year thought he might me traded but nothing.

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          • longmile
            Crumber
            • Apr 2011
            • 3362

            This is a big loss

            Originally posted by Levii3
            +1

            Sam Reid is an interesting one free agent next year thought he might me traded but nothing.
            Longmire really rates him unfortunately

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            • KTigers
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2012
              • 2499

              For sure. You only need to look out in the Homebush direction to see what quality picks with some decent coaching
              for the last two years looks like. And you don't even need to look outside the SCG to see what quality coaching and
              direction from the senior players can do with a bunch of motivated guys off the lower rungs of the draft. It can help
              you win 17 games in the H & A, and get you into a GF. Maybe we'll use the money that would have gone to
              Mitchell to quietly sign Heeney & Mills to long-term deals as we did with Hanners & Parker.

              Originally posted by mattybloods
              I hope we just get draft picks and no players in this trade

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              • rojo
                Opti-pessi-misti
                • Mar 2009
                • 1102

                Originally posted by Cosmic Wizard
                I wonder if this is all Longmire doing???

                He was never one of Horse favs, always being drop.

                Players have long memories.
                It did appear that way. I just hope he doesn't turn out such a big a loss as Mummy. We don't seem to have enough players who stand up under the pressure of GF footy. Tom played a better GF game than Jack and Parks and as good as Hanners,. I don't know why we don't rate him enough to try and keep him. I know the team balance argument and the others coming on with more outside skills argument but I guess we are going to find out how wise a decision it is by whom we get for him and how well they perform. Hopefully someone or two who can play as well for us as he is going to play for Hawthorn.

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                • goswannies
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3048

                  Originally posted by Pmcc2911
                  I guess it all hangs off whether the Hawks are on the slide or not, if they are, then is an extra 300K a year enough to not play in another Grand Final?
                  It's a decent Melbourne investment property or a fair Adelaide residential property over 4 years. It's 114 years of my current household grocery bills (on an expensive shop ... every week!).

                  It's a decent car lease until he's too old to drive & covers petrol over that time too.

                  If your aim is premierships. Might not be worth it (though some would say the Hawks are still a chance) if your aim is setting yourself up financially ... I will begrudgingly concede. If you a traitorous mercenary who will sell your soul to the devil, I'll concede that happily.

                  Although I think that's just bitterness from me, as for an extra $300 a year and free morning tea, I'd probably consider changing employers! $300k and you would see a clean pair of heels & the door wouldn't hit my ass on the way out

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                  • Jeynez
                    Warming the Bench
                    • May 2013
                    • 223

                    Unfortunate that we weren't able to strike a deal, but he is worth more than what we could afford, just sucks he chose Hawthorn of all clubs. But would rather lose Mitchell than Heeney or Mills. Hopefully we can get fair compensation for him, Pick 14 is not enough, maybe we can get Freo's first rounder from the Hill trade as well.

                    No bloody idea how Hawthorn plan to satisfy the O'Meara trade as well though

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                    • swannymatt
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 10

                      Damn Mitchell...... spewing.

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                      • Primmy
                        Proud Tragic Swan
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 5970

                        Originally posted by liz
                        Mitchell's a very good young player but we're one club who can probably afford to lose someone of his type and not suffer overly. Just opens a spot for Mills to move into the midfield next year. I imagine the Swans decided not to go overboard in matching offers he received from elsewhere with one eye on the next contracts of Mills and Heeney (and others).
                        Oh don't be so logical liz, its rhetoric we need now.

                        Mind you, with supposedly Talier back in, and we've got Sam and Sinca to accommodate, Zac has moved up the pecking order, Mills is organising the pecking order, Heeney is the other branch of the pecking order, AA is clearly a given down back, and etc etc, its not like we are going to be savaged by loss. And I like the look of Marsh. Robbo was developing beautifully. And AJ is back in the mix. Plus Tyrone, BJ, Newman, O'Riordon and Foote. Hmm. That'll do me.
                        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          I've been saying all along that Tom is a good player, but we don't need him. When you look at our list as a whole I feel that Longmire really didn't want him either. We will be a better side without Tom because those who take his place provide a better mix than we had with Tom.

                          Without Tom and Macca we midfield of Kennedy, Parker, Hanners, Mills and Heeney, with Lloyd, Jones, Jack and Hewett in the rotation. That's a very high quality midfield.

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                          • Blue Sun
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2010
                            • 1439

                            Originally posted by goswannies
                            Although I think that's just bitterness from me, as for an extra $300 a year and free morning tea, I'd probably consider changing employers! $300k and you would see a clean pair of heels & the door wouldn't hit my ass on the way out
                            Love it!

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                            • Mug Punter
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 3325

                              Originally posted by liz
                              Mitchell's a very good young player but we're one club who can probably afford to lose someone of his type and not suffer overly. Just opens a spot for Mills to move into the midfield next year. I imagine the Swans decided not to go overboard in matching offers he received from elsewhere with one eye on the next contracts of Mills and Heeney (and others).
                              ++1

                              I think we can accommodate his loss better than any other club given our midfield depth and we simply move Mills into the midfield, cannot wait to watch this kid rip and tear next year with a point to prove after a fairly disappointing end to 2016.

                              I suspect we weighed up the effect it would have on our ability to keep the likes of Heeney, Mills and Hewett and we decided to pass. It was inevitable we'd lose someone dur to cap space due to our Tippet and Buddy deals and I guess Tom is it. But on the bright side I think Tom is the only salary cap medicine we'll need to take.

                              I'm not happy about him going to the wees and poos given the way they snipe at us and then proceed to sign whichever players they like in recent years. But I can see how they can afford this if, as is happening, Mitchell Lewis Hodge et al are playing for massive unders. I do think they are a club on the decline but it remains to see how Mitchell and JOM impact their form.

                              It's a minor point but I also think it is week as piss that Tom outright lied to a loyal fan re his plans and I say it says a lot about his character so good riddance from that perspective. Why be a big time Charlie and lie, why not just tell the truth and say "I'm not sure rather than tell an outright porkie"?

                              In terms of what we can get for him our best bet is to try and engineer a bidding war with Carlton and given we are dealing with a direct competitor I'd truly prefer to send him to Carlton for nowt than the Hawks for unders. I'd still be keen on their 2017 first rounder plus an upgrade of our second rounder to the mid 20s but anything less a top 10 equivalent is not acceptable in my book.

                              We move on..

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                              • Captain
                                Captain of the Side
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3602

                                Originally posted by Plugger46
                                Amusing how quickly some fans turn. Now all of a sudden he's not a great loss.

                                Quality young player. Check out his Grand Final or his game against Hawthorn at the MCG if you need a reminder. He's a significant loss and we should be compensated accordingly.
                                If we are better or equally compensated how is it a loss?

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