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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 15970

    Originally posted by RogueSwan
    Has it ever been confirmed that Mitchell is leaving due to $$$'s or is it just a guess/excuse? I just can't see the Swans not paying a footballer they want (is this where it all falls down?) an appropriate wage? My gut feel, now, is that he was never going to re-sign and both parties are using money as the reason but I don't feel it is the truth. But hey, what would I know???
    Since footballers' salaries are not publicly disclosed, it can only be an educated guess at best. If you believe the media report we are offering Mitchell somewhere in the vicinity of $300k-380k per year depending on which media outlet you choose to believe whereas the Hawks are offering $600-700k per year. If the discrepancy between the two figures are even remotely close to accurate, I don't think I could begrudge Mitchell taking the significantly higher offer on the table.
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    • AnnieH
      RWOs Black Sheep
      • Aug 2006
      • 11332

      I heard we were offering $550-600K... what he's worth.
      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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      • Dosser
        Just wild about Harry
        • Mar 2011
        • 1833

        For some reason, I had always thought that we gave him $1mil sign-on fee and $500k per year for this contract. This would make the Hawks offer considerably north of that.

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        • Mug Punter
          On the Rookie List
          • Nov 2009
          • 3325

          Originally posted by AnnieH
          I heard we were offering $550-600K... what he's worth.
          I think he is nuts if that is the case, he would have been much better taking a $100,000 a year hair cut for three years and then have a genuine crack at free agency in three years time.

          Picks 14 and 34 equate to a top 10 pick using the points system as a guide so I think that is a fair deal. And you'd hope we'd be able to bundle our picks 34 and 37 at the very least for the Lions pick 21. Picks 14,17 and 21 should be able to deliver us some decent talent to the list.

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            Originally posted by AnnieH
            "Hawthorn currently holds picks 14, 34, 52, 70 and 88"

            They're not "high" draft picks.
            Looks like we're going to get shafted by whorethorn, again.
            Whorethorn seems the prime destination club for players just doing it for the money. Somehow makes sense.

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            • AnnieH
              RWOs Black Sheep
              • Aug 2006
              • 11332

              Originally posted by Ludwig
              Whorethorn seems the prime destination club for players just doing it for the money. Somehow makes sense.
              But WHERE are they getting all the money from?
              Maybe the AFL have told them (only) how much extra is being given for the salary cap for next year.
              It's doing my head in.
              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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              • azzzr
                Pushing for Selection
                • Jun 2016
                • 52

                Originally posted by AnnieH
                But WHERE are they getting all the money from?
                Maybe the AFL have told them (only) how much extra is being given for the salary cap for next year.
                It's doing my head in.
                Havent you heard, the good guys Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis and Gibson are all playing for peanuts so the club can bring in young superstars! it's common knowledge between hawks supporters

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                • Mug Punter
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 3325

                  Originally posted by AnnieH
                  But WHERE are they getting all the money from?
                  Maybe the AFL have told them (only) how much extra is being given for the salary cap for next year.
                  It's doing my head in.
                  I am hoping that they are just hanging on at the moment. They're able to keep the likes of Hodge, Mitchell, Gibson, Poppy and Lewis for very low wages due to their longevity (i.e. they've earned a good whack and they're prepared to accept unders rather than retire and see 2017 as one final crack at the finals) but after 2017 I expect to see a real vacuum there and hopefully a ladder slide.

                  I also expect they use their business coteries to help "support' these players, I always wonder how much "brown paper money" passes through these peculiar Melbournian groups

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                  • waswan
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 2047

                    Originally posted by AnnieH
                    But WHERE are they getting all the money from?
                    Maybe the AFL have told them (only) how much extra is being given for the salary cap for next year.
                    It's doing my head in.
                    how the @@@@@@@ are we in a trade period where the player payments for next year are not known ?
                    This is amateur AFL governance at its finest, how could we enter this period without the main issue of Total Player Payments being locked down ?

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                    • mattybloods
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 482

                      Originally posted by waswan
                      how the @@@@@@@ are we in a trade period where the player payments for next year are not known ?
                      This is amateur AFL governance at its finest, how could we enter this period without the main issue of Total Player Payments being locked down ?
                      Yep pretty ridiculous

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                      • waswan
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 2047

                        Last time this was up for negotiation they got a 7% rise. That's an extra 700K, this time they are expecting north of 10%, which is North of 1Mil.

                        Surely 150 of that could go to Mitchell, on top of the 400 he is on ???

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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          Originally posted by AnnieH
                          But WHERE are they getting all the money from?
                          Maybe the AFL have told them (only) how much extra is being given for the salary cap for next year.
                          It's doing my head in.
                          There's lots of money in Whorethorn. Lots and lots and lots. Just Dermott Brereton alone kicks in over 100k a year.

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                          • CureTheSane
                            Carpe Noctem
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 5032

                            Originally posted by Plugger46
                            Amusing how quickly some fans turn. Now all of a sudden he's not a great loss.
                            Not sure where this is coming from.
                            For the last month there have been many people here who seemed ok with losing him.

                            Regarding Hawthorn, I have another 4 pages to read on this thread before I'm up to date.
                            I'm hoping that it's not full of sooks complaining about who they can and can't have and using the "they can't have everyone" line.
                            They have a cap. As long as they don't exceed it, then good on them.
                            The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                            • ugg
                              Can you feel it?
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15970

                              CTS, there has been a rich history of potting ex-Swans who have left the club. The latest one prior to Mitchell is Membrey who has been labelled a down-hill skier for his good track record against non-finals teams.
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                              • 111431
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 698

                                Originally posted by waswan
                                how the @@@@@@@ are we in a trade period where the player payments for next year are not known ?
                                This is amateur AFL governance at its finest, how could we enter this period without the main issue of Total Player Payments being locked down ?
                                fully agree

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