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Pick #14 is a disgrace if true
Talk of Pick 6 for Prestia
Treloar is 2 1st Rounders
Id put him in the PSD for anything less then 2 1st Rd picks of 1St rd pick and player....
Even better if they parted with Sam Mitchell than we send him to the PSDComment
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When was the last time you saw us win in a trade when losing a player? The system at the moment is geared to heavily favor the side that a player nominates to be traded to because clubs have no leverage due to not being able to trade players anywhere else without their consent and risk losing them for nothing if a deal can't be struck. I knew as soon as Mitchell nominated to be traded we would get nowhere near back what he is actually worth! Our track record isn't flash but then again unless the AFL chances the rules on trading then it is difficult for all clubs with losing disgruntled players.
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I will be so frustrated if we let Tom go for pick 14 only. SHOCKING DEAL.
Given the Hawks have lost Sam, than we need to play extra hardball on Tom.
The Hawks will be more desperate than ever to get Tom so we must push back hard.Comment
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Add to that the proposed Sam Mitchell trade to West Coast. Obviously they have a lot of work to do, and dumping a Brownlow medalist is a big move.
Hardly an indication of the 'family club'
Likewise, I'm wondering where all those commentators and general public fans are who were slagging off the Swans and implying unlimited funds due to COLA etc.
We are losing a great player as 'penance' for the Buddy/Tippo deals. Surely they should all be fairly happy about this? I guess if they raise the issue it makes them wrong in their cap complaints...The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.Comment
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Haven't seen the pick 14 stuff yet, until I read it here just now.
Ironically I was just about to post how the likelihood is that the club will 'do the right thing by the player' to get him to his club of choice and maintain the mantra of being a fair trader etc.
This is probably tainted because Swans supporter undoubtedly think Mitchell is worth more than he is.
Only way to tell is to post in a general AFL forum somewhere and gauge how Mitchell for pick 14 is seem by those without a vested interest.
A card the Swans don'r seem to play is the threat to trade Mitchell for the best deal, putting pressure of the Hawks to come up with a better deal.
Personally I think (through my rose coloured glasses) that pick 14 is a great deal for the Hawks. I guess what we do with pick 14 is the only way to know if it is a good deal.
Seems the Hawks are looking for a last run at a flag before a bit of a rebuild. They are getting older and slower and may just find themselves in the middle of the ladder if they aren't careful.The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.Comment
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Id wait for Sam Mitchell to go to West Coast
Then id say to Hawks pick #14 gets Tom Mitchell into the Pre-season draft
And they risk being Mitchelless
Hopefully players minds have changed at Hawks about leaving nowComment
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I wonder if the S. Mitchell to west coast move is partly driven by a desire to free up cap space.
Interesting that T Mitchell was asked about a move to St Kilda if they offered Swans a better deal and the money was comparable for him and he said "I don't see why not". So Hawthorn don't have all the leverage here - St Kilda pick before Hawthorn in the draft.
Also, I did LOL at the idea of Betts for Gibbs. You are a sick man dejavoodoo.Comment
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I have a feeling that the deal has already been done, but there may be something additional to Pick 14 that is dependent on how other trades go and that's what's holding up any official announcement. I think the negotiating was probably done last week, if not earlier. Hawthorn's situation is very complicated and may delay things a bit. The 'extras', if they exist, may be minor, but will still stop the paperwork from going through.Comment
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Out of contract, we can't afford him and there's seemingly only one club in the mix. Why would we get fair value?Bloods
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Pick 14 will be pick 16 at best with academy kids.....maybe lower with compensation
They can bash that
If Carlton are baulking at pick 13 and a player for 28yr old Gibbs, we can certainly do the same for 23yr old Mitchell for Pick 14.
Something else has to be at Play here ???
Richards (350K), Mcglynn (300K) retire, salary cap increases(1Mil), maybe a couple of others out the door in Towers(200K) and Nank(200K) and then Mitchell(400K) - That is over 2Mil
We have to have money. Funny when we were chasing Tom Mcdonald a month ago with what food stamps ?Comment
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