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  • mcs
    Travelling Swannie!!
    • Jul 2007
    • 8166

    Originally posted by bloodsbigot
    As I thought, no Breust and bent over big time. Weak swans. Very weak.
    Breust was never ever going to be on the table - it is irrational to think that he might have been.
    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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    • goswannies
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2007
      • 3051

      The paperwork hasn't been done. I'd just love to see the Swans renege at the last minute.
      Last edited by goswannies; 12 October 2016, 03:51 PM.

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        Originally posted by waswan
        apparently pick 14 was going to be for Hanley, why don't we go pick 17 and towers for Hanley ?
        We can get someone as good or better than Hanley with pick 17 alone. Plus he will be on a low wage compared to the 600k that Hanley will be looking for. The whole idea of trading Mitchell was to lower the wage base till we get through the Tippett squeeze in 2 years.

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        • bungwahl
          Warming the Bench
          • May 2009
          • 173

          Would you have taken pick 9 for Mitchell?

          That's essentially where I think he's been valued. I assume the delay in announcing the pick swap is due to the Hawks waiting to see which pick they receive for Hill, which is expected to be the Mayne compo pick (23). Swans would then swap our 2nd rounder.

          14 + 23 for Mitchell + 38.

          Values Mitchell at pick 9.

          If it turns out to be their 2nd (35) for our 3rd (56), then it's still a pick 9 valuation.

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          • giant
            Veterans List
            • Mar 2005
            • 4731

            Recent pick 14s:
            - Hapwood
            - Lever
            - McCarthy
            - Corr
            - Devon Smith (GWS have owned 14...)
            - Brodie Smtih
            - our very own Lewis Jetta

            Could live with many of those.

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            • SeanM
              Warming the Bench
              • Jul 2016
              • 304

              I think pick 14 is great.

              Apparently it is a even draft. I like that we have got two picks around the same rank. We can take a gamble with one of the picks.

              We can take two different types of midfielders. Or take the best midfielder then use the other one on another position we would not usually use an early pick on.

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8559

                According to Travis King(afl.com.au) : "The Swans will hold picks 14, 17, 38 and 56 in the upcoming draft once the Mitchell swap goes through."

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                • bungwahl
                  Warming the Bench
                  • May 2009
                  • 173

                  Originally posted by stevoswan
                  According to Travis King(afl.com.au) : "The Swans will hold picks 14, 17, 38 and 56 in the upcoming draft once the Mitchell swap goes through."
                  That's before any other pick swap.

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                  • stevoswan
                    Veterans List
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 8559

                    Originally posted by bungwahl
                    That's before any other pick swap.
                    I believe so......

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                    • waswan
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 2047

                      The pick valuation only means anything if you banking for academy kids.
                      Id take Pick 9 straight up over 14 and 23

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                      • The Big Cat
                        On the veteran's list
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 2356

                        Originally posted by bloodsbigot
                        As I thought, no Breust and bent over big time. Weak swans. Very weak.
                        WE are trading our number 5 ranked midfielder for a first round pick. I can live with that especially as Heeney and Mills would have gone straight past him next year.

                        Hawthorn saying TM has the flexibility to play several positions. NO HE HASN"T. He's a slow inside mid - full stop.
                        Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                        • waswan
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 2047

                          We are trading the 2nd best midfielder of our finals series.
                          When you lose 2 of the last 3 GF that has to be a consideration.
                          No point dominating the year and not turning up when it counts, TM more than did his heavy lifting this finals campaign

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                          • Levii3
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 655

                            Originally posted by The Big Cat
                            Hawthorn saying TM has the flexibility to play several positions. NO HE HASN"T. He's a slow inside mid - full stop.
                            Could not stop laughing when i read this so truerofl. The least versatile player on the list that includes rucks and most of the reserves boys.

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                            • Steve
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 676

                              I suspect our position is that a level of goodwill is created by trying to be reasonable when players want to be traded. We present as 'good employers' when trying to recruit others, and our current players feel good about a club that would still be reasonable if their situation changed and they wanted to leave.

                              Unfortunately the decent players we have leave too often go to better clubs who have ordinary picks, like Jolly to Collingwood who were going well at the time.

                              Swapping later picks with Hawthorn this year though seems fairly pointless. Our last usable pick is currently 56 given we traded our 4th rounder last year for Talia - so unless we swap 56 for Hawthorn's 35, any other upgrade is negligible given Hawthorn are only 3 picks ahead of us in the other rounds (and West Coast are only 2 picks ahead of that - re: what Hawthorn might get for S.Mitchell).

                              If we're going to swap picks, I'd rather do that with future picks and take a punt on Hawthorn slipping further in 2017.

                              Maybe swap their 2nd rounder for our 3rd rounder next year. Worst case that would be similar to this year and be our pick in the 50's for theirs in the high 30's. But if they do slip, we'd be getting a pick in the low 30's.

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                              • Jeynez
                                Warming the Bench
                                • May 2013
                                • 223

                                We'll just have to wait and see how the remaining pick swaps turn out. Would be fairly content if we could get another 2nd round pick, especially given how good we've been at drafting in the 2nd round. Still unders for Mitchell, but was always going to be that way once he nominated the Hawks

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