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  • Vonsteinman
    Warming the Bench
    • Sep 2008
    • 366

    #31
    Originally posted by Damien
    If I presented to my staff at work leaning against the wall with my hands in my pocket, I can assure you my MD would have me in his office and ask if I was actually still interested in my job. We are allowed to question Roos surely?
    Unless your surname is Hardwick mate, this is completely irrelevent.

    In my line of work, if I "reflect the frustration" that is sometimes felt by observers with a vested interest in my operation (and at times the frustration that I might be feeling), then I would know that it was time to move on from my role.

    But so what. I am glad that we have a coach who can calmly address his players when things aren't going right - especially when your starting ruck pair, your most decorated defender, arguably your best forward and two or three more of your first side are not playing. I think it's fair to say, that approach has taken the side to more victories than defeats.

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    • Damien
      Living in 2005
      • Jan 2003
      • 3713

      #32
      Originally posted by Bas
      Not refering to yesterday. Generally speaking. I miss the old days when Eade would smash the phone, yell every obscenity under the sun then flap his arms at 160km hr during 1/4 and 3/4 time. It was just letting the players know what everyone in the stands was feeling.

      Although having said that, I don't think I've ever heard the team get booed off the ground like they did under Eade.

      Bugger, shot myself in the foot.
      lol I often wonder how David Parkin would go coaching Sydney. He would probably be getting Frequent Customer points from the cardiac unit at the Prince of Wales at Randwick I think.

      On the boo thing though, I am trying to think of when the boys have been booed off ever? I do remember about 10 years ago at a game, a few in the upper decks giving them a boo, but the lower Brewongle have famously clapped them off in all circumstances I thought?

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      • Damien
        Living in 2005
        • Jan 2003
        • 3713

        #33
        Originally posted by Vonsteinman
        Unless your surname is Hardwick mate, this is completely irrelevent.

        In my line of work, if I "reflect the frustration" that is sometimes felt by observers with a vested interest in my operation (and at times the frustration that I might be feeling), then I would know that it was time to move on from my role.

        But so what. I am glad that we have a coach who can calmly address his players when things aren't going right - especially when your starting ruck pair, your most decorated defender, arguably your best forward and two or three more of your first side are not playing. I think it's fair to say, that approach has taken the side to more victories than defeats.
        Fair enough, entitled to your opinion, not quite sure why I have to be an AFL coach to make a comparison (it's all about presenting and getting the best out of people, Roos often makes the same comparison to business).

        I think it was a bad day for Roos and the team played with the same lethargy he seemed to be displaying. All I saw was a team getting more and more disorganised as the game went on and were lucky not to lose by more. I grew up with a father who was first a footballer and then a coach, and I'd hate Roos to be like the Coaches he had who often replaced most English words with 4 letter words starting with F, but Saturday I strongly felt as if our excuses had already been made, in both Roos demeanor and the way the side played. I've been frustrated a bit over the past 7 years for various reasons (typically relating to St Kilda games haha), but Saturday was the first day where I felt like the team knew it was OK to lose.

        Roos is a legend of the Club, our only living Premiership Coach and it's been a fantastic ride, history tells us it will probably all be fine and this period is a blip thanks to a high injury toll but we are allowed to be frustrated with him, just as we are allowed to be frustrated with players, no matter who it is.

        Sigh. Time for me to move on from this game! Bring on Freo.

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        • SwansFan1972
          On the Rookie List
          • Nov 2008
          • 621

          #34
          He was reacting appropriately to a result which most, apart from us ardent supporters, would have expected.

          All up yesterday was pretty awful, but a bit of perspective - the team was drastically undermanned, and was playing the pre-season premiership favourite after copping a belting from the reigning premier - and both away from the considerable comforts of home. They all had a bad day - it happens, move on.

          We are still ahead of where most were expecting pre-season, and considering the outs over the last fortnight, we can't really be too surprised about these two losses. Sucks to lose - especially when footy tipping for me over the last two weeks has delivered two 7/8's with both losses being the only matches I really cared about and wanted a win in! Loyalty costs ...

          And hey - at least it took four key position outs (FB, FF and both rucks) to puncture our tyres a bit. St Kilda have been exposed as the ultimate one man band - with Kleenex out, they are a rabble. Sucks to be a Saints fan more than a Swans fan me thinks - dreams of premiership glory turning to dust faster than a Jetstar sprint down the wing ...

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          • Big Al
            Veterans List
            • Feb 2005
            • 7007

            #35
            Originally posted by Damien
            lol I often wonder how David Parkin would go coaching Sydney. He would probably be getting Frequent Customer points from the cardiac unit at the Prince of Wales at Randwick I think.

            On the boo thing though, I am trying to think of when the boys have been booed off ever? I do remember about 10 years ago at a game, a few in the upper decks giving them a boo, but the lower Brewongle have famously clapped them off in all circumstances I thought?
            The only game I can recall the crowd booing was when the Saints pumped us by 100 points in 98 at the SCG.
            ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

            Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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            • aardvark
              Veterans List
              • Mar 2010
              • 5685

              #36
              Originally posted by Damien
              Fair enough, entitled to your opinion, not quite sure why I have to be an AFL coach to make a comparison (it's all about presenting and getting the best out of people, Roos often makes the same comparison to business).

              I think it was a bad day for Roos and the team played with the same lethargy he seemed to be displaying. All I saw was a team getting more and more disorganised as the game went on and were lucky not to lose by more. I grew up with a father who was first a footballer and then a coach, and I'd hate Roos to be like the Coaches he had who often replaced most English words with 4 letter words starting with F, but Saturday I strongly felt as if our excuses had already been made, in both Roos demeanor and the way the side played. I've been frustrated a bit over the past 7 years for various reasons (typically relating to St Kilda games haha), but Saturday was the first day where I felt like the team knew it was OK to lose.

              Roos is a legend of the Club, our only living Premiership Coach and it's been a fantastic ride, history tells us it will probably all be fine and this period is a blip thanks to a high injury toll but we are allowed to be frustrated with him, just as we are allowed to be frustrated with players, no matter who it is.

              Sigh. Time for me to move on from this game! Bring on Freo.
              I do understand where you are coming from. There was a lot of being resigned to losing going on and it is disappointing.

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              • Bas
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 4457

                #37
                Originally posted by Damien
                lol I often wonder how David Parkin would go coaching Sydney. He would probably be getting Frequent Customer points from the cardiac unit at the Prince of Wales at Randwick I think.

                On the boo thing though, I am trying to think of when the boys have been booed off ever? I do remember about 10 years ago at a game, a few in the upper decks giving them a boo, but the lower Brewongle have famously clapped them off in all circumstances I thought?
                Parkin was classic.

                You were in striking distance on the lower level at Brewongle whereas upstairs no such problem.
                In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                • Jeffers1984
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 4564

                  #38
                  Damien;485961

                  On the boo thing though, I am trying to think of when the boys have been booed off ever? I do remember about 10 years ago at a game, a few in the upper decks giving them a boo, but the lower Brewongle have famously clapped them off in all circumstances I thought?
                  IIRC i think they were booed off in a 2002 game against the Bulldogs. at the SCG.
                  Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.

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                  • Bas
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 4457

                    #39
                    The Bombers yesterday rotated their ruck stocks through full forward. I imagined we would have done the same on Saturday, we didn't.
                    In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                    • bigswan
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 174

                      #40
                      The game was lost because we were unable to move the ball quickly enough through the midfield so that outr forward line could compete one off or better still run off onto the ball. Samson at FF would not have a difference considering the ball use. What's that got to do with Roos. He can't get on the ground himself. Be reasonable we were beaten by a better side and werte not able to play our game. End of story.

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                      • Jewels
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3258

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Jeffers1984
                        IIRC i think they were booed off in a 2002 game against the Bulldogs. at the SCG.
                        Yes. That was my very first live game and I was stunned at the booing.

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                        • Cheer_Cheer
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 739

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Jeffers1984
                          IIRC i think they were booed off in a 2002 game against the Bulldogs. at the SCG.
                          I was at that game.. I kinda got the feeling at the time that the booing was directed at Eade rather than the players though..

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