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  • sWAns63
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    • Apr 2003
    • 572

    #91
    Originally posted by Hartijon
    ?At the moment, it?s just completely psychological. To be perfectly frank ? he?s probably got to go back to the seconds and kick two or three goals because I don?t think it?s going to happen at senior level,? he said.

    ?That?s okay. He?s just a young kid and he?s just got the yips at the moment. The way to fix that is to get him back, get him playing good footy and kicking two or three goals in the seconds and he?ll be fine.

    ?It?s probably at the stage now where he?d run into an open goal and trip over the footy, but he?s a really talented kid and it?ll turn around. When it does, he?s the sort of kid who?ll kick 12 or 13 straight.?


    This is the Roos philosophy of coaching in a nut shell. "She'll be right mate,just drop him down to the 2's"" Imagine what Malthouse would do.The poor kid would actually be practising kicking goals on the run for 8 hours a day 7 days a week till he averaged 80% with no let up on other training either. Is Jetta lucky or unlucky to experience the Roos method? The players love him or used to love him but hell he is casual and sometimes appears to be just plain slack.


    We picked up Jetta for his pace & potental to be a dynamic player I remember a post on here early last year where we could pick our Swans team for round 1 2010 and I had Jetta in the forward line such was the look of him.He has the makings of being a real classy player though I think kicking goals is a big part of his footy the longer he goes without kicking one the more it will effect his game.I came on here thinking let him kick some in the ressies to get his confidence up though I've changed my mind. back him in and play him against the Tigers this weekend and see the players run to congratulate him when he ultimately kicks a goal. Maybe that's the spark the whole team needs to get themselves out of the doldrums.
    Last edited by sWAns63; 30 June 2010, 04:05 PM.

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    • Go Swannies
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      • Sep 2003
      • 5697

      #92
      Originally posted by sWAns63
      We picked up Jetta for his pace & potental to be a dynamic player I remember a post on here early last year where we could pick our Swans team for round 1 2010 and I had Jetta in the forward line such was the look of him.He has the makings of being a real classy player though I think kicking goals is a big part of his footy the longer he goes without kicking one the more it will effect his game.I came on here thinking let him kick some in the ressies to get his confidence up though I've changed my mind. back him in and play him against the Tigers this weekend and see the players run to congratulate him when he ultimately kicks a goal. Maybe that's the spark the whole team needs to get themselves out of the doldrums.
      At 3/4 time vs the Pies I said to my friends at the game that the whole team should accept the game had gone and they should all work on getting a first goal off those green boots. Then it would have been a fun night despite the loss.

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      • sWAns63
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        • Apr 2003
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        #93
        Originally posted by Go Swannies
        At 3/4 time vs the Pies I said to my friends at the game that the whole team should accept the game had gone and they should all work on getting a first goal off those green boots. Then it would have been a fun night despite the loss.
        A couple of games ago Goodes took a mark or got a free in the forward 50 all he had to do was kick it over the top to an unmarked Jetta running into an open goal and this wouldn't be an issue...........Goodesy missed the set shot by the way.

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        • DeadlyAkkuret
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          • Oct 2006
          • 4547

          #94
          Make Jetta our forwards coach, just for lulz.

          Seriously, don't panic because he can't find the big sticks. The boy can kick, he proved that with some outstanding passes earlier in the season when he was helping us switch the play and setting up scoring opportunities. It's his first season and he has the yips, no biggie.

          Not all of our youngsters can be Hannebery, most of them will take quite a number of games to truly find their feet.

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          • aardvark
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            • Mar 2010
            • 5685

            #95
            Jetta will be fine. In hindsight he probably should have had a break earlier than he did before his confidence really dropped.

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            • Hartijon
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              • May 2008
              • 1536

              #96
              Originally posted by aardvark
              Jetta will be fine. In hindsight he probably should have had a break earlier than he did before his confidence really dropped.
              This is a fair assessment,it certainly was worth giving him some time because of his enormous potential . Coaches have to use their judgement and it is now fair to say that whatever programme and personal coaching Roos has (secretly?) been giving him(which of course would not be related to his press releases???) has Not worked and the kid lacks goal kicking confidence. Of cause he will come good probably on his own in the 2's eventually and then we can all say what a great coach Roos is for fixing the kid up. Players cop it,Umpires cop it,Officials cop it while the coaches(particularly Roos) walk on water. Personally after such a settled mature team for many years,the large number of youngsters running around the club must have presented Roos with an enormous challenge. Having indicated he is leaving must make these youngsters a little uneasy and perhaps paying more attention to Horse. On his salary and with his difficult job of doing what he loves,I now agree,we should give the poor guy a break. If we can't get the kick ins right,if we can't get a forward line working,if we have players totally lacking in confidence,its not this poor guys fault.Give him a break!

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              • Mr Magoo
                Senior Player
                • May 2008
                • 1255

                #97
                Originally posted by Hartijon
                This is a fair assessment,it certainly was worth giving him some time because of his enormous potential . Coaches have to use their judgement and it is now fair to say that whatever programme and personal coaching Roos has (secretly?) been giving him(which of course would not be related to his press releases???) has Not worked and the kid lacks goal kicking confidence. Of cause he will come good probably on his own in the 2's eventually and then we can all say what a great coach Roos is for fixing the kid up. Players cop it,Umpires cop it,Officials cop it while the coaches(particularly Roos) walk on water. Personally after such a settled mature team for many years,the large number of youngsters running around the club must have presented Roos with an enormous challenge. Having indicated he is leaving must make these youngsters a little uneasy and perhaps paying more attention to Horse. On his salary and with his difficult job of doing what he loves,I now agree,we should give the poor guy a break. If we can't get the kick ins right,if we can't get a forward line working,if we have players totally lacking in confidence,its not this poor guys fault.Give him a break!
                II think you misunderstood my original post. i am not saying Roos is beyond reproach but what I was saying is that if you assume that Roos twenty second press clips are a reflection of his handling of his players or are the only things he says or does with his players then you are sadly mistaken.

                I agree that our kick ins have been a weakness of Roos reign as coach but I for one disgree that the forward line is non functioning across the whole of this season and I have not seen evidence of a lackof confidence in the players generally except for Jetta (which could be expected of a first year player as the season has progressed)

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                • Robbo
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                  • May 2007
                  • 2946

                  #98
                  I remember hearing an interview with Troy Longmuir on Perth radio last year. He finished his career in the WAFL and retired at the end of last season. He said that he did more skills work and goal kicking practice at WAFL training sessions than he did in AFL training sessions.

                  From what I have seen of Jetta this year his skills have probably gone backwards a bit from what I saw of him in the WAFL last year. Could have something to do with the change in training methods.

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                  • DST
                    The voice of reason!
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2705

                    #99
                    Originally posted by aardvark
                    Jetta will be fine. In hindsight he probably should have had a break earlier than he did before his confidence really dropped.
                    Hit the nail on the head.

                    Should have been spelled at least a month ago, as his work rate had dropped off and he was struggling to get as many contents as he needs to. His not going to be a high possession player so to survive in the AFL he is going to have to work hard both ways and get to as many contests as possible to have an influence on games like we know he can.

                    But you can't blame the coaching staff, we really do need the pace hence why both Rohan and Jetta have been played early and for a little longer than the coaching staff would have liked.

                    DST
                    Last edited by DST; 1 July 2010, 11:35 PM.
                    "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                    • DST
                      The voice of reason!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2705

                      Originally posted by Robbo
                      From what I have seen of Jetta this year his skills have probably gone backwards a bit from what I saw of him in the WAFL last year. Could have something to do with the change in training methods.
                      You could argue that, but it's probably more to do with the speed of the game at AFL level.

                      The first couple (even 3 years) at an AFL club is all about building fitness and structure to play modern football, skills are secondary as you won't make it if you can't run both ways and get to contests, irrespective of how skillfull you are.

                      DST
                      Last edited by DST; 1 July 2010, 11:39 PM.
                      "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                      • Hartijon
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                        • May 2008
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                        Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                        II think you misunderstood my original post. i am not saying Roos is beyond reproach but what I was saying is that if you assume that Roos twenty second press clips are a reflection of his handling of his players or are the only things he says or does with his players then you are sadly mistaken.

                        I agree that our kick ins have been a weakness of Roos reign as coach but I for one disgree that the forward line is non functioning across the whole of this season and I have not seen evidence of a lackof confidence in the players generally except for Jetta (which could be expected of a first year player as the season has progressed)
                        I believe Roos is an honest man so I believe what Roos says in press clips,I don't have nor do I need secret cameras etc to hear what he says or does with the boys at training.To suggest I need them before I offer an opinion is ridiculous. The incontrovertable evidence for all to see is TEAM Performance and Player performance. You can have an opinion about how good the coaching on the "kick ins" during the week has been by watching the game. Are the "kick ins "working? If they are not working,it is reasonable to suggest that the coaching has not worked?? Don't need secret microphones!You can see how effective the work in boosting a kids confidence has been by observing his play and body language.Coaching modern day kids is all about their head space and coaches MUST be able to comunicate with modern youth. This is the basis of my criticism and also my praise of coaches.I thought Roos game coached a lot better against the Pies than he has ever done before.

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                        • dimelb
                          pr. dim-melb; m not f
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 6889

                          There is no disputing, the kick-ins (or are they kick-outs, is there a right and wrong?) are abysmal.
                          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                          • AnnieH
                            RWOs Black Sheep
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 11332

                            Jets' best position ... goal square.
                            Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                            Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                            • AnnieH
                              RWOs Black Sheep
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 11332

                              Originally posted by dimelb
                              There is no disputing, the kick-ins (or are they kick-outs, is there a right and wrong?) are abysmal.
                              If we can't get the ball past the halfback line .....






                              (You won't believe how many times this has been screamed this season!)
                              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                              • sWAns63
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                                • Apr 2003
                                • 572

                                I'd use him off the half back flank, originally would of said midfield though we don't get clean enough possession for him and with our dour midfield he gets caught in the congestion especially against the real good teams put him at halfback where he'll get more space and he can use his speed evasive skills to clear the ball out of defense then send him forward sometimes to kick the odd goal, at least for the time being.Kind of the way the bulldogs used Josh Hill last season.

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