Swans v. Port Game Thread

[Big Al]

Not long back from the G watching Jack the Ripper dissect West Coast. Our Jesse is not in his class - yet, but no-one else is either. And I agree with Stella, and with Liz, and would add Josh Kennedy (the WC one) to her formidable list of KPFs who are taking time to develop. I'd add that their development is almost never uniform, on a steady upward gradient, but usually more of a two-steps-forward-one-step-back variety. If we traded him elsewhere it would come back to bite us on the bum bigtime imho.

I'm reminded of the rantings (mine included) about McVeigh when he started out at with the Swans. He took time to develop but is now an A grade mid fielder. I have a feeling Jesse is on the same path.

[Dogzbody]

I don't see the problem or the cause for concern with White (and think comparing him with Campbell Heath is ridiculous). Couple of things to think about.

1. He is a fabulous athlete and is only 22, hasn't shown any propensity to particular injury, and is keen as mustard to be the best he can be (and shows his emotions on behalf of what happens to teammates)
2. Can run/mark/kick and tackle. We saw the Richo experiment on the wing and that was with a bloke who could often be doubtful for a set shot from 5m. White isnt at the end of his career (and doesn't have 2 reco'd knees), and I really think he could be a midfield flank running into forward/ruck where needed. Vesz/MOD and others wont have this capability... i.e 2m tall athletes with big tanks. They will be competing for other roles.

Compare apples with apples people. The reality is, we only have one of these sort of apples. Like McVeigh (and I recall the McHack tag that he got for many a year on this site) this kid will be special!!! End of story.

In the group that have been discussed in this thread I can think of 3 or 4 games where Whites contribution has one us games, and the number of times he has been bad at this stage of his career can be expected. If he were traded or not given opportunities to grow his confidence it would be a crime. I see no issue for others to be aggrieved that he has been given a place in the seniors. I dont feel that he is playing his destined role on the football field yet.

[Bloody Hell]

I don't think we'd even be discussing Jesse, had a port player not got a fingernail to his snapped goal or if the match had have gone for 2 seconds longer.

Jesse's marks were't sticking, but he provided a contest. His second efforts were excellent, and his work at ground level was fantastic.
Jesse is here to stay, and it will be to our benefit.

All 3 of those points are the same point. If his marks were sticking, points 2 and 3 would be irrelevant.

[aardvark]

3 kicks, 3 handballs, 1 mark, 1 point in a dominant side with over 50 inside 50s. Doesn't matter if Jessie is the Messiah or the Devil, the stats tell the story.

[Bloody Hell]

I wouldn't recommend running Jesse on the ball or in the ruck or anything besides a tall forward. He needs to understand his role and gain experience through playing. I don't think it would hurt for him to kick 10 in the reserves at this time.

[giant]

Thought JK was really good and needs more love in the thread.

2 goals help.

I'm a big Josh fan but thought that other than his two ripper goals he had a pretty quiet one last night. Still looks like a super pick up.

[stellation]

All 3 of those points are the same point. If his marks were sticking, points 2 and 3 would be irrelevant.

Well then you could discount all second efforts then as just a poor performance from a non-first touch player?

[goswannie14]

All 3 of those points are the same point. If his marks were sticking, points 2 and 3 would be irrelevant.

Really????

So when the ball comes in under pressure (and we know how bad our delivery into the forward line has traditionally been) or off another marking contest, that is irrelevant?

[rojo]

I agree that the best way for White to develop is to spend his time in the forward line. My friend is a Richmond supporter (masochist) so I have watched a few Richmond games and last year Jack Reiwoldt played some shockers but they put their faith in him and continued to play him in the key position up forward (actually they have no one else) and now look at him!

However, it makes me think ruefully of Ed. If a position had been found for him and someone had had faith enough to play him for a period of time in it, who knows - he may have developed into a good player!

[stellation]

3 kicks, 3 handballs, 1 mark, 1 point in a dominant side with over 50 inside 50s. Doesn't matter if Jessie is the Messiah or the Devil, the stats tell the story.

The team won, and won comfortably, and if there were problems I didn't really think they were in the forward 50. That tells a story as well.

[dimelb]

3 kicks, 3 handballs, 1 mark, 1 point in a dominant side with over 50 inside 50s. Doesn't matter if Jessie is the Messiah or the Devil, the stats tell the story.

I think he mostly had Cornes on him, who may be a codger these days but is very cunning. When we are at full strength, Jesse gets the third defender. When that happens, heaven help the other team

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

3 votes for swans supporters in boganville. Swans chant was outstanding, showed them bogans how its done.

It was awesome fun leading the chants from down the front with my big flag. We have over 100 paid up club members in SA alone. We'd have had 500 or behind the goals. They are also very keen too. One lady next to me was in tears, as seeing us win was the highlight of her year. It makes coming interstate (& 12hour V-line bus trips from hell) worth it!

Even more awesome was seeing this Port fan in a teal & black beanie lose the plot every time I started a chant up in the last quarter. He was swearing at me, giving me the finger, threatening to come down and belt me. So I kept going just to to see what he'd do next!

Was awesome seeing the players come right up to us and give us High 5s on the boundary line. It is funny but little things like that really mean a lot to us diehard fans. They make you feel like we are all one club together. More please fellas!

Nice to have a weekend during the World Cup. ;o) Then it is the Pies up in Sydney, a game I thought was a certain loss. Now I'm not so sure. Our team has great promise.All this is a rebuilding year (how is your re-building going West Coast! :0P)

JF

[Bas]

Even more awesome was seeing this Port fan in a teal & black beanie lose the plot every time I started a chant up in the last quarter. He was swearing at me, giving me the finger, threatening to come down and belt me. So I kept going just to to see what he'd do next!

Was awesome seeing the players come right up to us and give us High 5s on the boundary line. It is funny but little things like that really mean a lot to us diehard fans. They make you feel like we are all one club together. More please fellas!
JF

The Sydney chant came through loud and clear on the telly and even the talking heads made a comment about it. I commented earlier about the team going out to the supporters and Rooster's Irish Jig. As funny as it is reading about the Port supporter who lost the plot, worst feeling in the world if you end up in the same situation.

The plastic over the seats at AAMI is a shocker. Does it break down under Port tears?

[CJK]

Was it Bird who was called 'holding the ball' when he wasn't actually 'holding the ball' at the time?

But was having it held to him by a couple of Port players? Crazy.

[31 hard at it]

Well done to JF and the loyal supporters in Adelaide.
Its a tough town to barrack for anyone other than the locals.
Some call it Feral ... I think they are just bad football supporters - with a huge inferiority complex.

The chants in the last quarter gave us the atmosphere that the commentators had denied us all game.

Take a week to relax and hope the Magies have a very tough (but fair) hitout tomorrow.