Braddy and McGlynn are back v Dogs!! - (TEAM NAMED)

[Go Swannies]

GS, my 'precisely even' and Pluggers 'exactly' is more in response to Captain's assertion that people calling for Moore to be the one who makes way for McGlynn are not necessarily Moore 'non-fans' as you put it, but just think that Moore should make way rather than TDL.

I am as far removed from a Moore 'non-fan' as you will find and I can drag up PLENTY of posts over the past few years where I've sung his praises and backed him against unfair criticism, but as it stands, this week, this match, I'd prefer TDL to Moore if McGlynn returns.

Actually, as I said before, I'd prefer ROK to be rested.

I don't think we are as far apart as it might look. On injuries you'd think ROK and B1 might be outs - that head knock was pretty solid. On form you'd probably say White and Moore out and Braddy and Ben in but I think neither will go - White because he's being groomed as our 10 year tall forward (and this is great finals experience) and Moore for his role as the forwards' general. If we bring two players in after a month (and months) out the need to run the forward line will be even greater than ever and that's why I'm sure (baring hidden injuries) Moore will play.

Roos showed a few weeks ago that he's not afraid to mix things up (that's a surprise after years of not) and I think that might happen this week, too. But you have to salivate about a forward line that has Ben, Braddy and TDL being fed by Moore's smarts and Jesse's crash and smash. Match up on that Rodney.

I wonder what role the weather will have in selection? And I wonder what's happening in the Swans medical rooms right now?

[liz]

I think it would be extremely foolhardy to go into any game, but especially a cut-throat final against a good side, with two forwards who are experienced and have class but are limited in their mobility and ability to chase. You could argue that having one up there is justifiable - using ROK's goal as evidence - but I think two would be a recipe for disaster. So unless ROK's groin stages a remarkable recovery in the next few days, I think the coaches have to make a choice between him and Bradshaw if they think Bradshaw is ready to come back.

[Jesse Richards]

My preference is for our most fit players who can play hard and those who can stay on the field for the longest time. I think that we need to allow for the possibility of 2 injuries during the game (hopefully not from BBHall's fist) and players with an injury question mark are a gamble we can't afford to take.

[giant]

I think it would be extremely foolhardy to go into any game, but especially a cut-throat final against a good side, with two forwards who are experienced and have class but are limited in their mobility and ability to chase. You could argue that having one up there is justifiable - using ROK's goal as evidence - but I think two would be a recipe for disaster. So unless ROK's groin stages a remarkable recovery in the next few days, I think the coaches have to make a choice between him and Bradshaw if they think Bradshaw is ready to come back.

Exactly right Liz - they won't play both. For mine, ROK is the type of player that relies more on his aerobic capacity and mobility than Bradshaw who could simply be plonked in the square and could keep Lake honest or Hahn nightmares. Even tho ROK has played some excellent stopping roles in recent weeks with limited mobility, I just think he has less to offer on the 'G in these circumstances.

Given the 3rd qr on Sunday, if Eade has any sense he'll realise his best chance lies with dumping some of the crocks and bring in some younger faster players and hoping it doesn't turn into a slugfest. If that's the case, then for mine, we look exposed with Moore in the F50. I remain unapologetic that I'm not a Moore supporter - while he did some good work in the midfield on Sunday, I don't see him scoring goals, making tackles or otherwise providing forward pressure, which I reckon is actually the role of the small forward. Rohan for mine.

[dimelb]

... I remain unapologetic that I'm not a Moore supporter - while he did some good work in the midfield on Sunday, I don't see him scoring goals, making tackles or otherwise providing forward pressure, which I reckon is actually the role of the small forward. Rohan for mine.

You didn't see him catch Garlett?
But if Grohan turns up in his place, I'll assume the selectors know what they're up to.

[GoRhino]

Forget about Braddy, particularly if McGlynn is right to play. Let Braddy have another week to pick up a better level of fitness and really test the knee. ROK seems to be carrying an injury but if he went into Sunday's game with it and is no worse, he could play a forward role. He will take one of the Bulldogs best defenders (maybe even Lake) who would be reluctant to run off him to often because they have been frequently turning the ball over. McGlynn, TDL & Big Jesse to my surprise, will apply plenty of forward pressure and we seem to have avenues to goal that weren't there six weeks ago.
Am confident we can beat the Bulldogs with whatever team the Selectors determine and with a little luck, Braddy and LRT will be back for the big one(s).

[Danzar]

In: McGlynn
Out: ROK or LJ

No other changes.

They'll play Bradshaw against St Kilda, if we get there.

[Turner]

I think 2 matches in the Reserves is enough for Braddy, Roosy has said he pulled up well considering reports saying it looked like he was gone. Leave it to the medical team, I say if they think his right to go then bring him in.

[aardvark]

Time after time we see clubs gamble with injured players in finals only to have it all turn to @@@@e. I know the temptation is there with Braddy but I agree with Liz. We cant afford to carry him and ROK. One or the other please.

[JudesaGun]

No one deserves to be left out, but the obvious change is McGlynn in for Moore.

As for Bradshaw, it's even more difficult. A couple of things to consider:-

1. Roos likes the White/ Bradshaw set up so White won't be left out;
2. It would be too much of a risk dropping White anyway, in case Bradshaw went down;
3. TDL has proven himself to be too good a goal kicker to be left out;
4. We need speed on the G vs the Dogs, so you would think Jetta would keep his spot - but Roos has always shown a preference in taking experienced bodies into finals. He could be the unlucky one to make way;
5. O'Keefe is clearly injured. He was definitely short on pace on the weekend, but the bigger concern is the number of times he was outmarked by Jordan Russell. That would never happen to a fit O'Keefe. He is probably the one that should be rested BUT given Roos's comments about Brad Johnson and their management plan for O'Keefe, it would be suprising to see him left out. Also by keeping O'Keefe it might mean that the Dogs have to invest a player like Hahn down back.
6. It's difficult to see any oher possible ommissions:-
(a) Bevan maybe - but the Dogs have a number of small forwards we may need him to match up on. He also had a good game on Sunday. Having said that we do have Shaw, Mattner, Smith and Malceski to take those match ups.
(b) Hannebery maybe - purely if his injury is worrying him but he also had a good game on the weekend and has played some great matches at the G this year.

Overall, the selectors will probably go Bradshaw for Bevan, although (as noted above) I'd be worried having 2 forwards below 100% in the one game (O'Keefe and Bradshaw) and I'd prefer to leave out O'Keefe if he's not 100%.

Really, who knows....

[Blue Sun]

McGlynn and Bradshaw should make a return this week IMO (as long as they think they are right to play).

ROK should be rested, LJ or Moore should be dropped for a week.

LJ isn't hungry enough for the ball and doesn't kick straight, Moore is out of form and ROK is running on half a tank.

[aardvark]

If McGlynn got hit in the head again it could be really really ugly for him. Please Benny, next year is soon enough.

[Trickster]

I'd be more concerned about bringing McGlynn in purely due to the nature of his injury.
Broken bones don't heal that fast and it is a delicate area, I'd worry about a re-break or worse

[Bas]

Benny no chance for this week. Braddy maybe.

[Hartijon]

I think it would be extremely foolhardy to go into any game, but especially a cut-throat final against a good side, with two forwards who are experienced and have class but are limited in their mobility and ability to chase. You could argue that having one up there is justifiable - using ROK's goal as evidence - but I think two would be a recipe for disaster. So unless ROK's groin stages a remarkable recovery in the next few days, I think the coaches have to make a choice between him and Bradshaw if they think Bradshaw is ready to come back.

I agree with this summing up. I also think the idea of having a player there,just to "run the forward lines" is a luxury we can ill afford.
The whole concept of this is not very flattering to the other forwards and seems to assumes they are dopes who don't know where to position or run.We have a coach,we have runners who can tell them,why do we need a player out there to run them?So having two suspect players in the forwards and one picked as the "General" will I fear backfire on us. I hope we don't go that way.