Lateral thinking: Swans gone C'arn the pies

[Old S.M.Blood]

With a bit of luck The "Colliwobbles" will really set in.
You may have guessed I really hate collingwood.


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[aardvark]

My BIG picture view is that everyone wins out of a replay. The AFL, MCG, club merchandise, the players get paid more, the umps get paid again, the workers at the G get another big pay day, more members get to see a GF, the public get to see another GF on the telly, another round of BBQ's with more snags and grog bought, grass roots footy gets another spin off, off season one week shorter, wall to wall footy chat for another week on radio, Gold Coast and GWS get funded in one hit, Premier Cricket in Melbourne don't have to play round 1 on under prepared grounds due to the wet winter, it's school holidays still in Melbourne so the kids have another week to soak up the tradition and culture etc, etc, etc. Bring it on.

and whats more is the GF replay is the ultimate test of both teams strength,mentally and physically. Far far better than a quick fix extra 5 each way.

[aardvark]

I just don't get colliwobble fans.

Ah yes Annie, that's part of why you are a loyal Swans fan.....and you probably still have your own teeth !!!

[Nico]

I agree, but no-one is saying that the grand final should be decided by a penalty shoot-out, just that we should have had extra time yesterday. If the scores are still deadlocked after a period of extra time, say 5-10 minutes each way (extremely unlikely as this is not soccer), then I don't mind the replay to be fair to both teams as at least both would have been given ample opportunity to win it on the day.

My BIG picture view is that everyone wins out of a replay. The AFL, MCG, club merchandise, the players get paid more, the umps get paid again, the workers at the G get another big pay day, more members get to see a GF, the public get to see another GF on the telly, another round of BBQ's with more snags and grog bought, grass roots footy gets another spin off, off season one week shorter, wall to wall footy chat for another week on radio, Gold Coast and GWS get funded in one hit, Premier Cricket in Melbourne don't have to play round 1 on under prepared grounds due to the wet winter, it's school holidays still in Melbourne so the kids have another week to soak up the tradition and culture etc, etc, etc. Bring it on.

[AnnieH]

If you dare to go over to the dark side and have a look on their board Leon has been hung, drawn and quartered as only Collingwood fans can do.

But he kept them there for another crack at it next week.

I just don't get colliwobble fans.

[Xie Shan]

Sure it would be exciting but AFL grand finals are a war of attrition and wars are never decided by penalty shootouts. If no one wins the battle you retreat, lick your wounds, bury the dead (Leon Davis) and get ready to charge in again. This is a tough sport, it should stay that way.

I agree, but no-one is saying that the grand final should be decided by a penalty shoot-out, just that we should have had extra time yesterday. If the scores are still deadlocked after a period of extra time, say 5-10 minutes each way (extremely unlikely as this is not soccer), then I don't mind the replay to be fair to both teams as at least both would have been given ample opportunity to win it on the day.

[aardvark]

I agree with your position on this for the Grand Final.

However, you cannot just keep going with replay upon replay if (in the unlikely event) no-one manages to secure a win the second week around. It would still be a war (in AFL terms) - two huge battles in successive weeks and then extra time (they would never have a penalty shoot-out). That is about as big as it gets in sporting competitions.

There is a heap of pressure being put on the AFL now in regards to this rule, so I wouldn't be surprised if they changed it - but I hope they don't.

In another thread, somewhere around here, someone suggested they should give premiership medallions to all the players who played for that team during the season (which I think is a great idea - or alternatively, for normal GF years the club should have victory medals made for their entire playing list). However, this becomes more pertinent with changes to the two teams of Collingwood and St Kilda for next week. If a player misses next week through injury and their team gets up, I hope he is still involved on match day (victory stand, etc).

Demetriou said on the Footy show this morning that they were disinclined to change it but it would be discussed. lets hope there is a result in real time next week.

[Trickster]

The winner of the 2010 grand final is...the MCG

[Matty10]

If no one wins the battle you retreat, lick your wounds, bury the dead (Leon Davis) and get ready to charge in again. This is a tough sport, it should stay that way.

I agree with your position on this for the Grand Final.

However, you cannot just keep going with replay upon replay if (in the unlikely event) no-one manages to secure a win the second week around. It would still be a war (in AFL terms) - two huge battles in successive weeks and then extra time (they would never have a penalty shoot-out). That is about as big as it gets in sporting competitions.

There is a heap of pressure being put on the AFL now in regards to this rule, so I wouldn't be surprised if they changed it - but I hope they don't.

In another thread, somewhere around here, someone suggested they should give premiership medallions to all the players who played for that team during the season (which I think is a great idea - or alternatively, for normal GF years the club should have victory medals made for their entire playing list). However, this becomes more pertinent with changes to the two teams of Collingwood and St Kilda for next week. If a player misses next week through injury and their team gets up, I hope he is still involved on match day (victory stand, etc).

[aardvark]

Didn't Leon Davis' goal keep the wobbles in the game?

If you dare to go over to the dark side and have a look on their board Leon has been hung, drawn and quartered as only Collingwood fans can do.

[AnnieH]

Torn. Thats what I am. Toooorrrn.....it should be finished now. Overtime ten minutes each way. But what a bloody game......and some of the kings barely had a crowning moment......whattha Davis? What happened to Michael Gardener, does that mean Ben MacEvoy gets a gig next week? Or do they have to play the same team? Anyone?

They can pick and choose as they see fit Prims.

They say the wobbles are in a better position - player fitness wise.

[AnnieH]

. If no one wins the battle you retreat, lick your wounds, bury the dead (Leon Davis) and get ready to charge in again. This is a tough sport, it should stay that way.

Didn't Leon Davis' goal keep the wobbles in the game?

[Primmy]

Torn. Thats what I am. Toooorrrn.....it should be finished now. Overtime ten minutes each way. But what a bloody game......and some of the kings barely had a crowning moment......whattha Davis? What happened to Michael Gardener, does that mean Ben MacEvoy gets a gig next week? Or do they have to play the same team? Anyone?

[aardvark]

It can't be too late yet - they haven't even played! I'd agree if they changed their minds today - or after another drawn match next weekend - but everyone will go into the match knowing the scenario.

True....but everyone new the rules at the start of the season too. One of the biggest problems with this game is that the AFL constantly fiddle with the rules on all levels at any old time when it suits them. Dermie on SEN Melb said last night that our game is unique in that the season is not decided by a penalty shootout. Sure it would be exciting but AFL grand finals are a war of attrition and wars are never decided by penalty shootouts. If no one wins the battle you retreat, lick your wounds, bury the dead (Leon Davis) and get ready to charge in again. This is a tough sport, it should stay that way.

[Big Al]

It can't be too late yet - they haven't even played! I'd agree if they changed their minds today - or after another drawn match next weekend - but everyone will go into the match knowing the scenario.

Agree... shame the brain dead idiots at the AFL didn't change this a long time ago. Grand Final day deserves a winner. How good would have extra time have been today?