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  • Matt80
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2013
    • 1802

    Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
    Mills and Heeney both impressed again in the 2's on the weekend...I bet it isn't coincidence that the coaching staff won't mention them among the best players or talk about them in the NEAFL wrap...clever!

    Mills: 15 kicks, 11 handballs, 6 marks, 2 tackles, 7 i-50's, 2 r-50's

    Heeney: 14 kicks, 11 handballs, 4 marks, 7 tackles, 3 i-50's, 5 r-50's.
    Great to see Heeney get 7 tackles! How does the combination of Hewitt, Heeney and Mills work together in the midfield? Is it building towards Cousins, Judd and Kerr without the partying?
    Is ROK being played forward to give Heeney and Mills more midfield time?

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    • Matt80
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Sep 2013
      • 1802

      Delighted to report that there will be no changes to the Academy or Father/Son bidding system in late 2014.

      On AFL.com

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      • Conor_Dillon
        On the Rookie List
        • Jun 2013
        • 1224

        Originally posted by Matt80
        Great to see Heeney get 7 tackles! How does the combination of Hewitt, Heeney and Mills work together in the midfield? Is it building towards Cousins, Judd and Kerr without the partying?
        Is ROK being played forward to give Heeney and Mills more midfield time?
        Whoahhhh hold-up with the Judd/Cousins/Kerr comparisons haha lets not get ahead of ourselves!!

        And I'd say ROK was probably played forward as a replacement for Membrey/Nankervis as neither of them played.
        Twitter @cmdil
        Instagram @conordillon

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        • i'm-uninformed2
          Reefer Madness
          • Oct 2003
          • 4653

          Originally posted by Matt80
          Delighted to report that there will be no changes to the Academy or Father/Son bidding system in late 2014.

          On AFL.com
          Well, well . . . I am very surprised and very pleased.

          A little birdie at the Swans told me they were convinced the AFL was going to shaft them this year, so nice to see fat Eddie has been put back in his box - at least for now. Sure the war will continue and the Mills/Dunkley combo will have them desperate to cut us off at the knees next year.
          'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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          • Conor_Dillon
            On the Rookie List
            • Jun 2013
            • 1224

            The decision to not change it this year might have had something to do with the form of Darcy Moore and Eddie not wanting to pay any extra for him...the kid has been dominating!
            Twitter @cmdil
            Instagram @conordillon

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            • ShockOfHair
              One Man Out
              • Dec 2007
              • 3668

              Not really clear why but sounds like it's too complicated for now, plus the league has other issues on its hands.

              The league is still in the process of examining and testing potential new bidding systems, to ensure clubs pay a fair price for top-line players drafted from the northern academies or as father-son selections, but has run out of time to introduce anything new this year with its next working group meeting not scheduled until next month


              No change to father-son bidding system for 2014
              The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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              • Meg
                Go Swannies!
                Site Admin
                • Aug 2011
                • 4828

                Originally posted by ShockOfHair
                Not really clear why but sounds like it's too complicated for now, plus the league has other issues on its hands.

                The league is still in the process of examining and testing potential new bidding systems, to ensure clubs pay a fair price for top-line players drafted from the northern academies or as father-son selections, but has run out of time to introduce anything new this year with its next working group meeting not scheduled until next month


                No change to father-son bidding system for 2014
                I assume it is resistance from clubs about the effect on F/S selections. Clubs other than those with academies were gung-ho to introduce more disadvantageous conditions for the drafting of academy players.

                It is a very good thing in hindsight that the rules for the draft of academy players were tied to F/S.

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                • ernie koala
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 3251

                  This wreaks of self serving McGuire making sure he gets Moore at a discount.

                  It's good for the Swans....

                  But to me it's just another example, ever since Gil has taken over, of McGuires growing influence over AFL house,.
                  Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                  • troyjones2525
                    Swans Fanatic!
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 2908

                    This is great news! But it's not going to be as big a discount as many thought re: Moore as Collingwood will likely drop a spot or 2 more this week and have a top 10 pick anyway! Lol.

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                    • 707
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6204

                      Great news all round. Collingwoods lower ladder position means Moore won't be such a bargain but Heeney will still be a bargain!

                      Expect next year that we'll need to use pick, 20, 40, 60, 80 & 100 for just Mills & Dunkley :-)

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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11339

                        Originally posted by ernie koala
                        This wreaks of self serving McGuire making sure he gets Moore at a discount.

                        It's good for the Swans....

                        But to me it's just another example, ever since Gil has taken over, of McGuires growing influence over AFL house,.
                        Or is Gil playing him on a break.
                        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                        • crackedactor
                          Regular in the Side
                          • May 2012
                          • 919

                          Originally posted by Nico
                          Or is Gil playing him on a break.
                          I don't think Gil would be game enough to mess with Eddie and his media influence. But no complaints from Eddie yet!!! A little difficult when they are getting young moore But its great we are getting Heeney!!

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                          • Meg
                            Go Swannies!
                            Site Admin
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 4828

                            Interesting story here re early arguments for the Swans Academy. Also like that in this story Heeney has now become a "top three talent". Won't be long till he is allegedly the top draft pick!

                            "Sydney would have completely withdrawn from the national draft and started recruiting exclusively from New South Wales under a radical proposal put to the AFL when the club was pushing for the establishment of the Swans' Academy more than nine years ago."


                            Read more: Swans had plan to pull out of draft

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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16773

                              Originally posted by Meg
                              Interesting story here re early arguments for the Swans Academy. Also like that in this story Heeney has now become a "top three talent". Won't be long till he is allegedly the top draft pick!

                              "Sydney would have completely withdrawn from the national draft and started recruiting exclusively from New South Wales under a radical proposal put to the AFL when the club was pushing for the establishment of the Swans' Academy more than nine years ago."


                              Read more: Swans had plan to pull out of draft
                              That story re the Swans offering to pull out of the draft altogether has been reported before. I have heard both Roos and Ireland speak passionately about how important they thought the concept was.

                              That's a good article by Quayle. It at least provides a modicum of background to the academy, pointing out that it's not about cherry picking the odd 16 or 17 year old, but rather a far broader investment into developing boys from age 11 onwards.

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                              • Matt80
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 1802

                                Originally posted by liz
                                That story re the Swans offering to pull out of the draft altogether has been reported before. I have heard both Roos and Ireland speak passionately about how important they thought the concept was.

                                That's a good article by Quayle. It at least provides a modicum of background to the academy, pointing out that it's not about cherry picking the odd 16 or 17 year old, but rather a far broader investment into developing boys from age 11 onwards.
                                Does anyone think that Cherry Picking talented 11 year old Rugby Union and Rugby League players in NSW for the Swans Academy has advantages over kids in the other junior AFL programs? I personally think that the tackling and toughness backgrounds in the Rugby codes would give you an advantage. I've heard that Heeney also played Rugby. His baptism of fire would not happen in the Swans Reserves, but rather as a 7 or 8 year old when he dealt with a 85kg Islander kid running straight at him. Now Heeney is tough and no AFL player can physically intimidate him.

                                I once played a Masters game with Brian Fletcher ( ex Rugby League player) and was amazed at how easily and confidently he picked the AFL game up. He held every mark and his running through the lines was incredible. It was his first game.

                                The Academy is picking up 11 year old Fletcher's and making these tough kids skilful.

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