Bolton relinquishes co-captaincy

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  • Hartijon
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2008
    • 1536

    #61
    Goodes deserves to be Captain. He is not in the same captaincy league as Kirk but he will do. His leadership aura is definately dampened by his displays of petulence at decisions against him,his lairising when we are in front and the two times he hung the elbow out trying to collect an opponents head in a less than fair manner. Great Captains don't play like this! Great player,average Captain.

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    • Yuri H
      That One Over There
      • Aug 2005
      • 588

      #62
      Originally posted by royboy42
      I reckon if Jack keeps going as he is, he'd be a great chance to follow Goodes. Maybe then Hanners. There's almost 4 years between them.
      I'd be OK with this succession plan!

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      • DeadlyAkkuret
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2006
        • 4547

        #63
        Originally posted by Hartijon
        Goodes deserves to be Captain. He is not in the same captaincy league as Kirk but he will do. His leadership aura is definately dampened by his displays of petulence at decisions against him,his lairising when we are in front and the two times he hung the elbow out trying to collect an opponents head in a less than fair manner. Great Captains don't play like this! Great player,average Captain.
        What does this mean?

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        • royboy42
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2006
          • 2078

          #64
          Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
          What does this mean?
          Yeah..I'm a bit confused by this as well?

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          • Hartijon
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2008
            • 1536

            #65
            It means attempting to do brilliant but risky moves with the ball and in play rather than a more reliable play. If they come off it looks great and the opposition looks stupid,if it doesn't ,the shoe is on the other foot.

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            • nomae
              Regular in the Side
              • May 2006
              • 523

              #66
              Originally posted by Hartijon
              Goodes deserves to be Captain... Great Captains don't play like this! Great player,average Captain.
              Somewhat of a contradiction.

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              • Hartijon
                On the Rookie List
                • May 2008
                • 1536

                #67
                Originally posted by nomae
                Somewhat of a contradiction.
                yeah,thats how I see him.

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                • sharp9
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2508

                  #68
                  My gut feeling is that the sole captaincy will elevate Goodesy's Mana...and make him a better player. He strikes me as the kind of bloke who needs careful stroking to bring out his (temperamental) best. Unlike, say, Kirky or Matthew Boyd. If Goodexy is sole captain he really will be "The Man" and, I think the team will benefit.
                  "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                  • Primmy
                    Proud Tragic Swan
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 5970

                    #69
                    Originally posted by sharp9
                    My gut feeling is that the sole captaincy will elevate Goodesy's Mana...and make him a better player. He strikes me as the kind of bloke who needs careful stroking to bring out his (temperamental) best. Unlike, say, Kirky or Matthew Boyd. If Goodexy is sole captain he really will be "The Man" and, I think the team will benefit.
                    That's pretty much how I read it too, and I also understand the "somewhat of a contradiction" statement. I worried when he became captain in the first place, as he never struck me as captain material. Politician yes, mover and a shaker yes, captain of industry yes, champion of justice yes, but captain of a club of footballers, no. As Sharp said, somewhat fragile and can blow hot and cold. We really need a steady hand, am not sure that Adam appears to be all that 'approachable'. Like Kirky for instance. You can always imagine the 18 yos chatting to Kirky, but in my imagination Adam seems to be a on a different level and is not adept at getting back down to the kids levels.

                    Maybe this is where he gets a chance to learn this side of his craft. However if he is in "charge" of the whole side on gameday, I do feel he may try to do too much all the time....its in his nature to do so.

                    I would not be surprised so see McVeigh in contention, nor Shaw for that matter (he is kind of like the favourite Uncle as I see it, approachable and has ethics), NicMal perhaps, Jude would be good, but I wonder if he would want it, Moore (yes I said Doggy, and I mean it).

                    Then again what on earth would we know.....its up to the inner sanctum and Horse.
                    If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                    • RogueSwan
                      McVeigh for Brownlow
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 4602

                      #70
                      Originally posted by sharp9
                      ... He strikes me as the kind of bloke who needs careful stroking to bring out his (temperamental) best...
                      "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                      • Big Al
                        Veterans List
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 7007

                        #71
                        Originally posted by sharp9
                        kind of bloke who needs careful stroking to bring out his (temperamental) best. .
                        Don't we all.
                        ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                        Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                        • RogueSwan
                          McVeigh for Brownlow
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 4602

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Big Al
                          Don't we all.
                          then it should read "beast" not "best"!
                          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                          • DeadlyAkkuret
                            Veterans List
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 4547

                            #73
                            Originally posted by sharp9
                            He strikes me as the kind of bloke who needs careful stroking to bring out his (temperamental) best.
                            Originally posted by RogueSwan
                            Originally posted by Big Al
                            Don't we all.
                            Originally posted by RogueSwan
                            then it should read "beast" not "best"!
                            Lol good stuff guys

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                            • Hartijon
                              On the Rookie List
                              • May 2008
                              • 1536

                              #74
                              And so a perfectly intelligent introspective thread dies a slow death,mired in the mud of sexual inuendo. Some of you guys could do with a holiday in Thailand. Happy to pass on insider tips!

                              I thought Primmy's assessment of Goodes was excellent but are we all expecting too much of him??? Many stars on the field have been less than engaging personalities off the field. Look at Gary Ablett senior. On field leadership can be by example (Goodes,Jack) as well as verbal(Shaw,Moore)

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                              • AnnieH
                                RWOs Black Sheep
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 11332

                                #75
                                Apologies Prims, but Goodesy is very approachable.
                                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                                Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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