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Just as a matter of interest, who else let rip with an expletive-laden rant when Bevo played on after free?
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"You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."Comment
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meIf you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhoodComment
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All you will get from us is a lot of self employed coaches who should know better; you had better search for the AFL rule book (I know there is a site such as that online). But I think the single most important fan rule is that every decision made by the umpires against us is wrong, and every decision for us is right. That's it in a nutshell.If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhoodComment
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I am starting to think that of all the stupid rules that the AFL have brought in, this is one of the stupider ones. The players are playing on instinct and don't have time to stop and wonder whether it is to the team's advantage to play on. Especially in a HTB situation where half the time the umpies just call "play on" when the ball comes free in a tackle, at which point it is a free for all, and whoever reacts the quickest is most likely to get possession.
I thought this "player decides" rule had been left to the confines of the NAB Cup. I hadn't realised until yesterday that it was in for the season proper.Comment
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I also thought that it was just another NAB Cup experiment.
I pity the players. Is there any other profession where practitioners have to keep up such frequent and pointless rule changes?The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible newsComment
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Did anyone see the blatant trip by the Melbourne defender (i think Garland) on Jarrad Mcveigh in the 2nd quarter? It may have been covered off earlier in the forum apologises if it was.
I was sitting in the ponsford stand just around from the goals (so it happened in front of me)
Jarrad had sold candy and got Garland in the air when he clearly stuck his leg out and tripped up Jarrad. This resulted in a turnover and we lost the ball when Mcveigh was going to stroll in from around 40 out and potentially slot a goal.
1) that was a free kick not paid!!!, and 2) Why wasnt he reported? Tripping is a low dog act that can cause serious injury, this wasnt attempted tripping, it was tripping, he should serve weeks.Comment
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From memory, in rugby the referees used to (maybe still do) have the power to call "no advantage" and pay the free kick in the Bevan type situation. (Some RWO posters would probably think that Bevo getting the ball could be construed as no advantage.) Obviously that introduces cases when the ref seemed to let the advantage run for a long time until a mistake was made and then called "no advantage", but the current application in AFL is stupid.Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way you'll be a mile away and he'll be shoeless.Comment
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Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.Comment
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After watching the replay I was super impressed by Everitt, just needs to get the ball in his hands a little more. Will definately be a key to our backline this year, Smith also impressed me.Comment
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I really like the Rugby (Union) advantage. The referee deems advantage to be taken if and when the team does an act that they would have done through a penalty. This means advantage can apply accross phases until the ref deems they've gained as much ground as they would have with a kick, or if they indeed kick the ball for example.
To apply that to Aussie Rules would mean advantage applies until the next (uncontested) possession, either from hand or foot, or if the ball has been carried at least 15 meters forward. I think that's close to what we have, it just needs some tweaking to ensure fairness. And I'm not sure the players are the best judge of it, but neither are the umpires it seems.10100111001 ;-)Comment
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It should just be if the ball has travelled at least 15 metres forward. An uncontested possession doesn't necessarily suggest that advantage has been gained.
Umpires need to be the judge. They're the only ones who know immediately whether a free has been paid, so they're the only ones that can make the split second call about whether there's advantage. You'll always get some stuff-ups, but it's better than a rule where a player can undo a free kick because he didn't hear the @@@@ing whistle.Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!Comment
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As an ex-umpire before the advantage law if there was a clear(really clear) advantage then we simply didn't blow our whistle - what was the point - it would only cause confusion and disadvantage that side .
IMO the advantage law should be just the hand indication as a courtesy to show that you've seen an infringement .No whistle with play on .Umpires have guidelines to complement laws .e.g. 7 strides at full pace is equivalent to 15 metres and two steps off the mark is play on or over the mark is a 50m penealty .So I think it is case where some guidelines need to be implemented .Like the attacking team has to be in the clear and advantaged by at least 15 metres otherwise it's a free kick .
I'm still amazed that there seems to be no guidlines for holding the ball when tackled .
You'd think that if a player had posession for a full second or executed a 180 degree spin in posession that would equate to not an immediate attempt at disposal .At the WCE game an umpire waited a full 5 seconds until he called holding the ball .
He's another guidline that has seemed to completely escaped everybody - a tackled player fighting to retain posession of the ball is not trying to dispose of the ball . And whilst I'm still ranting - if a player takes posession of the ball he must legally dispose of the ball at some stage .give it to the gameComment
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