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  • Hartijon
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2008
    • 1536

    Seem to remember a guy from the Eagles called Hunter who went forward and caused maximum damage to us. Its a well used ploy by many coaches over many years from the old era to the modern. Voss was just unlucky nobody could get it down there.

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    • Big Al
      Veterans List
      • Feb 2005
      • 7007

      Originally posted by Hartijon
      Seem to remember a guy from the Eagles called Hunter who went forward and caused maximum damage to us. Its a well used ploy by many coaches over many years from the old era to the modern. Voss was just unlucky nobody could get it down there.
      Luck had nothing to do with Voss taking 2 1/2 qtrs to realise that it wasn't working and move him back.
      ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

      Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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      • Hartijon
        On the Rookie List
        • May 2008
        • 1536

        Originally posted by Big Al
        Luck had nothing to do with Voss taking 2 1/2 qtrs to realise that it wasn't working and move him back.
        Come on Big Al! You taught me that coaches know best! Unless you have hidden mikes in the change rooms you don't know what instructions Merrit was given. We mere mortals can't possibly judge the actions of our superiors "The AFL Coach". See? I learnt well from you!

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        • dimelb
          pr. dim-melb; m not f
          • Jun 2003
          • 6889

          Originally posted by Hartijon
          Didn't Sheedy win a GF doing precisely that? And Voss as you rightly note a respected AFL coach did the very same last week. But I tend to agree that the "resting at FF" is the best option right now. I AM impressed by Mumford's Forward sense. This guy is absolute GOLD and part of my suggestion is based on not wearing him out. Running his guts out,overloading him with work and then getting the inevitable injury is not good coaching either. Surprised therefore that Seaby is not in and LRT in his return match might have an overload too.
          I said at the time of his appointment that it would all end in tears. It was a huge mistake to pick an untried, inexperienced favourite son who had not done any sort of apprenticeship.
          And as for Mummy, I really wish they'd simply swapped Seaby for Pyke. But I won't harp on about it. Much.
          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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          • CJK
            Human
            • Apr 2006
            • 2170

            Originally posted by aardvark
            No White, Bevan or Moore. Who are we going to "whip" now?
            Easy - Jetta
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            • Untamed Snark
              Senior Player
              • Feb 2011
              • 1375

              Originally posted by dimelb
              I said at the time of his appointment that it would all end in tears. It was a huge mistake to pick an untried, inexperienced favourite son who had not done any sort of apprenticeship.And as for Mummy, I really wish they'd simply swapped Seaby for Pyke. But I won't harp on about it. Much.
              Cough -Hird-Cough
              Chillin' with the strange Quarks

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              • Triple B
                Formerly 'BBB'
                • Feb 2003
                • 6999

                Originally posted by Untamed Snark
                Cough -Hird-Cough
                Cough - Bomber Thompson - Cough
                Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                • caj23
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2462

                  Originally posted by dimelb
                  I said at the time of his appointment that it would all end in tears. It was a huge mistake to pick an untried, inexperienced favourite son who had not done any sort of apprenticeship.
                  As opposed to hiring a bloke:

                  - who has been second banana for 9 years
                  - who applied for senior coaching positions at other clubs during this period without success
                  - 12 months in advance without knowing what other candidates would be available
                  - without undergoing any sort of process to compare him to other potential candidates

                  Not exactly what I would consider best practice

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                  • Big Al
                    Veterans List
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 7007

                    Originally posted by caj23
                    As opposed to hiring a bloke:

                    - who has been second banana for 9 years
                    - who applied for senior coaching positions at other clubs during this period without success
                    - 12 months in advance without knowing what other candidates would be available
                    - without undergoing any sort of process to compare him to other potential candidates

                    Not exactly what I would consider best practice
                    Colless said at the Hall of Fame that John had been in the system a long time so the board knew what they were going to get and that it was one their easiest decisions they've ever had to make. 9 years is a pretty intensive job interview.

                    I'm happy with the transition and the way it was handled but at the end of the day like all boards and coaches they will be judged on their results.
                    ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                    Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                    • jono2707
                      Goes up to 11
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3326

                      Originally posted by caj23
                      As opposed to hiring a bloke:

                      - who has been second banana for 9 years
                      - who applied for senior coaching positions at other clubs during this period without success
                      - 12 months in advance without knowing what other candidates would be available
                      - without undergoing any sort of process to compare him to other potential candidates

                      Not exactly what I would consider best practice
                      Not sure what the problem is with Horse? I like the cut of his jib so far....

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                      • liz
                        Veteran
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 16773

                        Originally posted by caj23
                        As opposed to hiring a bloke:

                        - who has been second banana for 9 years
                        - who applied for senior coaching positions at other clubs during this period without success
                        - 12 months in advance without knowing what other candidates would be available
                        - without undergoing any sort of process to compare him to other potential candidates

                        Not exactly what I would consider best practice
                        It is not exactly abnormal practice to foster a succession plan and to promote from within. I think it depends on circumstances. If an organisation clearly needs a breath of fresh air to shake things up, getting someone in from outside makes sense. If it doesn't and there is a strong internal candidate who provides continuity, then it doesn't.

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                        • giant
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 4731

                          Originally posted by caj23
                          As opposed to hiring a bloke:

                          - who has been second banana for 9 years
                          - who applied for senior coaching positions at other clubs during this period without success
                          - 12 months in advance without knowing what other candidates would be available
                          - without undergoing any sort of process to compare him to other potential candidates

                          Not exactly what I would consider best practice
                          Really? This is exactly how the best companies in the world would choose to do succession planning if they could.

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                          • Dosser
                            Just wild about Harry
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1833

                            Originally posted by Big Al
                            That would be like putting your best defender at FF and no senior coach would do that. (Voss, what were you thinking)

                            I've always advocated for what Horse did last week and have the resting Ruckman at FF so was a little surprised that Seabs didn't come in for the Pyke. Will be interested to see if Mummy goes forward this week while LRT pinch hits in the ruck.
                            Silvagni

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                            • Triple B
                              Formerly 'BBB'
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 6999

                              Originally posted by caj23
                              As opposed to hiring a bloke:

                              - who applied for senior coaching positions at other clubs during this period without success
                              Not too sure about that.

                              He withdrew from the StKilda race a few years ago before it went too far down the track. At the time I and others thought that the Swans may have had a quiet word in his ear that Roosy was only a few years away from calling it quits and that he was at the forefront of their plans moving forward.

                              Added to that, by pulling out of the running it gave a leg up to Lyon who I can assume whilst not as tight as Ross/Roos, he was/is a mate.

                              Which other jobs has he applied for unsuccessfully ??
                              Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                              • Untamed Snark
                                Senior Player
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 1375

                                I have a spare ticket for tonight's game if anyone wants it
                                Chillin' with the strange Quarks

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