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  • aardvark
    Veterans List
    • Mar 2010
    • 5685

    The Fev kicked 7 again this weekend

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    • Matt79
      Bring it on!
      • Sep 2004
      • 3143

      I desperately want to see...White at FF from the goal square. TDL in the pocket, Reid at CHF providing a target up the ground, McGlynn in the other pocket as the crumber.
      Swannies for life!

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      • Big Al
        Veterans List
        • Feb 2005
        • 7007

        Originally posted by Matt79
        I desperately want to see...White at FF from the goal square. TDL in the pocket, Reid at CHF providing a target up the ground, McGlynn in the other pocket as the crumber.
        Replace TDL with Nipper and I'm sold. Nipper will compete hard both offensively and defensively. Something TDL is still struggling with.
        ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

        Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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        • BSA5
          Senior Player
          • Feb 2008
          • 2522

          Originally posted by Bloody Hell
          Edited for accuracy! And I am getting used to it. I was of the impression that most saw LRT as a band-aid solution, but this obviously isn't the case.
          Snipped the rest because this is the crux of the debate. Of course LRT is a band-aid solution! But until we have a FF that can play the role, the band-aid is going to have to stay in place. At the moment, there is no clear candidate for the FF position. If we were to land Taylor Walker, or even Tom Hawkins, then yes, LRT moves. If Johnston can get on the park and build up his core and upper-body strength, then yes, LRT moves. But at the moment, there's no clear FF solution, so LRT remains.
          Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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          • Bloody Hell
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2006
            • 3085

            Originally posted by BSA5
            Snipped the rest because this is the crux of the debate. Of course LRT is a band-aid solution! But until we have a FF that can play the role, the band-aid is going to have to stay in place. At the moment, there is no clear candidate for the FF position. If we were to land Taylor Walker, or even Tom Hawkins, then yes, LRT moves. If Johnston can get on the park and build up his core and upper-body strength, then yes, LRT moves. But at the moment, there's no clear FF solution, so LRT remains.
            I thought after today's performance this debate would be over - however...

            This is the crux of my argument. LRT is not the solution, there are other solutions available, so why not work through them, crossing them off as we go.

            I suggest we'll find out what's going to happen vs the Cat's when in all likelyhood Mike Pyke will return.
            The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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            • Snake
              On the Rookie List
              • Mar 2007
              • 330

              Forget about the FF how about the two pocket positions and CHF and forward flankers??
              Moore and Bevan, should get a chance to get a pocket position, or even TDL
              Reid is trying to hold down arguably the hardest position in CHF, just ain't there yet, this is where Goodes should be.
              O'Keefe is he injured, sore, tired??? Just so flat at the moment
              Jetta - to easily pushed of the ball, needs to spend all summer doing weights....

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              • dimelb
                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                • Jun 2003
                • 6889

                What is happening with Ben McGlynn? He's not where he was.
                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                • giant
                  Veterans List
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 4731

                  Originally posted by dimelb
                  What is happening with Ben McGlynn? He's not where he was.
                  Agreed, had some good patches but overall a pretty poor year compared to last year. Not the same passion and most of all not the same scoreboard pressure. Whether it's residual from last year's horror smash or just a return to the mean, he's given us very little most of the year.

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                  • Scottee
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 1585

                    Originally posted by BSA5
                    Snipped the rest because this is the crux of the debate. Of course LRT is a band-aid solution! But until we have a FF that can play the role, the band-aid is going to have to stay in place. At the moment, there is no clear candidate for the FF position. If we were to land Taylor Walker, or even Tom Hawkins, then yes, LRT moves. If Johnston can get on the park and build up his core and upper-body strength, then yes, LRT moves. But at the moment, there's no clear FF solution, so LRT remains.
                    I can't work out why Seaby has not been tried as a power forward. He could fill that role better than anyone at the club. His record at WC was very good as a forward and he can also back up better than LRT or White in the ruck. I don't think the club has acted in its own interest here.
                    We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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                    • Hartijon
                      On the Rookie List
                      • May 2008
                      • 1536

                      Originally posted by Scottee
                      I can't work out why Seaby has not been tried as a power forward. He could fill that role better than anyone at the club. His record at WC was very good as a forward and he can also back up better than LRT or White in the ruck. I don't think the club has acted in its own interest here.
                      It comes back to the same point. There has not been a genuine attempt to structure a Forward line. Even people singing LRT's praises admit he is a temporary solution only.Has he ever been seen to lead? Candidates for a permanent FF spot are of course Seaby, Pyke, Spangher,Currie or Reid (With someone else at CHF) .We are paying the price now for lack of foresight, planning and no risk taking early in the season. I blame unimaginative coaching.

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                      • aardvark
                        Veterans List
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 5685

                        Originally posted by Hartijon
                        It comes back to the same point. There has not been a genuine attempt to structure a Forward line. Even people singing LRT's praises admit he is a temporary solution only.Has he ever been seen to lead? Candidates for a permanent FF spot are of course Seaby, Pyke, Spangher,Currie or Reid (With someone else at CHF) .We are paying the price now for lack of foresight, planning and no risk taking early in the season. I blame unimaginative coaching.
                        Yep its been a wasted year in that respect.

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                        • Nich
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2010
                          • 1291

                          Badly wasted - a few injuries have played part but still super disappointing - makes me wonder if they've been planning all year to buy a key forward for 2012?? Not sure who is available though! It's like they've given up for 2011 on trying to make something work.

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                          • rojames
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 2

                            Play Jesse white at full forward. Open up the immediate area.One on one i beleive he will win most contests. Jarrad Moore is an essential part of that structure. We cannot continue with our style of football as the speed of the game is killing us. And we lack speed.
                            Lewis Jetta needs a spell as his second efforts are all but none existent. LRT back to full back.Richards in a back pocket. The forward set up at the moment or lack of comes down to coaching. Nothing else.

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                            • Snake
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 330

                              Originally posted by rojames
                              Play Jesse white at full forward. Open up the immediate area.One on one i beleive he will win most contests. Jarrad Moore is an essential part of that structure. We cannot continue with our style of football as the speed of the game is killing us. And we lack speed.
                              Lewis Jetta needs a spell as his second efforts are all but none existent. LRT back to full back.Richards in a back pocket. The forward set up at the moment or lack of comes down to coaching. Nothing else.
                              +1

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                              • aardvark
                                Veterans List
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 5685

                                Originally posted by rojames
                                Play Jesse white at full forward. Open up the immediate area.One on one i beleive he will win most contests. Jarrad Moore is an essential part of that structure. We cannot continue with our style of football as the speed of the game is killing us. And we lack speed.
                                Lewis Jetta needs a spell as his second efforts are all but none existent. LRT back to full back.Richards in a back pocket. The forward set up at the moment or lack of comes down to coaching. Nothing else.
                                Welcome aboard rojames. I don't disagree we lack sped but I don't see how Bulldog will help solve that problem. I too would be happy to see LRT at FB and Teddy as the 3rd tall defender, a role he plays so well.

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