Swans vs Carlton Game thread.

[mcs]

"Smash these Bloods
Come on Blues
They don't care
They got rid of Roos"

[Doctor]

They are genuine because they actually have some forwards. We have to rely on stopping anyone else from kicking ten goals to win. They can still win if their opponents kick fifteen.

It's time to recognize the limitations of the side - which I love they compete and scrap and never give in. But they simply can't score enough goals to beat any of the really strong clubs.

Agreed. The Weagles forward options would have to be the envy of just about everyone in the AFL. Natanui, Cox, Le Cras, Kennedy, Lynch, plus the attacking midfield options they have.

[ShockOfHair]

Today was a test to see if we could mix it with the top four. Oh well.

But of the ten games remaining, eight are against teams currently below u. We we should be able to win six or seven of those and get a 5th or 6th place finish.

Unbelievable number of forced and unforced errors today, starting with goalkicking. If we'd taken our chances we would have been in front at halftime.

We also headed Carlton on some key stats: contested possessions 152-145 and inside50s 46-42. Incredible really that they scored 5goals more than us from four fewer entries. That's the effect of our dumb turnovers and their efficient kicking.

They outtackled us 70 to 88 though. We're never going to beat top sides if we let them outpressure us. If we don't bring our defensive game to ANZ next week we'll get smashed by even more.

[mcs]

Agreed. The Weagles forward options would have to be the envy of just about everyone in the AFL. Natanui, Cox, Le Cras, Kennedy, Lynch, plus the attacking midfield options they have.

Kennedy is the example of how you need to be patient with key forwards and why we need to be very patient with Reid, White and LJ. He has finally really clicked the last 12 months, but before that he was a talented player but very much on and off as well. The wegos unfortunately are starting to build a very good side again.

[Playsmart]

ditto... Longmire should just stick with the white+tdl forward structure that worked really well last year.

Since White is getting into form in the reserve and we know what TDL can do, this combo should be given the chance to work in a few solid games. TDL would lend confidence to White, and TDL runs would open up more space for white. If white does not stand up, yes we have to let him go end of season.

[aardvark]

All true and Kreuzer was just unstoppable today. However, look at the stats in No 14's post. We spent plenty of time inside 50 and just didn't convert, again.

Not unstoppable, completely unmarked. He wandered around their forward line like a whore with the pox. No one went within 20 feet of him.

[Doctor]

"Smash these Bloods
Come on Blues
They don't care
They got rid of Roos"

It's stupid and inaccurate but not offensive IMO. Are they unaware that Roosy left of his own free will? Does news travel that slowly down Lygon St?

[31 hard at it]

The Swans Banner on the other hand

"We flew through volcanic ash to take on the Blues"

Thank you to the Cheer Squad for that ... Gold.
One of the best moments of the day.

Several around us thought the Carlton bannner was poor taste / and just wrong ????

[Bloody Hell]

Since White is getting into form in the reserve and we know what TDL can do, this combo should be given the chance to work in a few solid games. TDL would lend confidence to White, and TDL runs would open up more space for white. If white does not stand up, yes we have to let him go end of season.

I think White was dropped - in part to a bad run, but also due to his ineffectiveness in the ruck....hence the perseverance with LRT in that role.

Like to hear the view of the ressie watchers on whether Currie is more likely tha White for the FF/part-time ruck role particularly considering his current run of form.

White is more suited as the second/3rd target....I think there's room for White, Currie, TDL and LJ all in the same forward line, though very young. I am still advocating McVeigh forward for leadership.

[Nolie]

And Bob became even more well known when he played in the VFA later on when he was a tub of lard, but stood in the square and took marks and fended off players like he was swatting flies.

It shows how irrelevant to today's game these blokes have become. I wouldn't have thought Cometti or McAvaney saw Johnson play because they came from different states. If they did they were likely only whipper snappers.

Bob Johnson played for East Fremantle in the WAFL (very successfully) after his VFL career. I can remember him. He was a big actor feigning for frees. Dennis Cometti is marginally older than me (Dennis played for West Perth in the latter part of the 60's - 1966? 1967?) went to school with my older cousin. He would have well and truly have known of and seen Big Bob Johnson.

[Bloody Hell]

.I think there's room for White, Currie, TDL and LJ all in the same forward line, though very young. I am still advocating McVeigh forward for leadership.

....on second thought maybe there's not, when you add McGlynn and Reid.

Shutting down MCGlynn was smart and something I think we'll start to see more of.

[nomae]

Bob Johnson played for East Fremantle in the WAFL (very successfully) after his VFL career. I can remember him. He was a big actor feigning for frees. Dennis Cometti is marginally older than me (Dennis played for West Perth in the latter part of the 60's - 1966? 1967?) went to school with my older cousin. He would have well and truly have known of and seen Big Bob Johnson.

Was Commetti any good as a player?

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

This is a Carlton home game, right? Is the home team normally listed first on the scoreboard?
This is opposite of what I am used to seeing here in the USA...
Anyone?

You never see the Canadiens @ Leafs kind of stuff you see in the USA (that to be honest I find completely baffling).

As it is in European football, in the AFL the home team is always listed first, even if news bulletins will just the winning team on top of the losing team (if that makes sense)

Enough said by all of you already. Today was horrendous viewing. I gave up cheering in the 3rd quarter. Just talked with my friends in the Cheer Squad with a game going on in the background. That was fun, NOT!

Carlton are like watching 4 quarters of circle work at training; hardly any body contact at all. All players chipping little passes to each other without us laying a finger on them. Once again we are kings of junk time. Our passes suddenly seem to stick when the other team relaxes a bit.

And to think what Collingwood will do to us next week.

JF

[stellation]

I have no idea. They also made some crack about North Melbourne players travelling in the cargo section of planes? If I was a north supporter I would've been a bit annoyed at that.

I thought that Dennis clearly had thought that one through beforehand and introduced it so he could drop "sometimes a level playing field isn't so level".

[Snake]

What I learnt from yesterday was, McGlynn is either injured or just plain lazy, he defensive pressure was rubbish, constantly 20meters of his man when the Blues had the ball, and Carlton easily exposed it.

Jetta is offering nothing, in fact two parts of nothing still offer more than Jetta, time for a spell in the seconds.....

LRT in not a FF and will never be, Jesse White must be in next week, seriously why isnt Longmire putting more time into this bloke astounds me.

OUTS: McGlynn (replaced by Moore) Jetta (replaced by Bevan or TDL) LRT (replaced by Jesse White)