Ray Chamberlin is a ******* ****** who agrees?

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  • S120
    On the Rookie List
    • Apr 2011
    • 166

    They picked 3 pretty obvious ones where to the letter of the law they are frees or 50's but nobody will ever convince me that Mal should have been pinged for HTB. What absolute rubbish. To make it worse there was an exact replica of that tackle made by a Swan on a Docker (can't remember who, was too furious at the time) and it went unpaid. And I mean it was almost movement for movement the same tackle. Near the boundary line, Docker picks the ball up with no prior, gets tackled and supposedly has time to make a genuine attempt and doesn't get rid of it. Yet no free. Now I don't want a free given in either situation, but if one is paid against us then they have to pay it the other way. It was ridiculous.

    They could have picked out the Tip Rat battling with Grundy, that would have been interesting to see what Gieschen said about it.

    On a side note, I don't think I've ever heard a crowd so vitriolic towards the umpires before. When I saw the replay, it sounded nothing like it on TV. Had to be there live to feel the anger.

    And for that I say well done, boys and girls. The Tip Rat Ballantyne, Chamberlain and whoever that dickhead was umpiring in no.5 all were lucky to get out of the SCG alive.

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16778

      Originally posted by Owen87
      "Chamberlain came in for particular scorn on supporter forums and social networking sites, but Gieschen said he was comfortable with the "bubbly, gregarious" umpire showing his personality, provided his umpiring maintained a high standard."
      That comment from Gieschen is a bit of a worry. I am sure no-one has a problem with any umpire showing their personality off the field. But while umpires are critical to the game and certainly deserve respect, the football field is not a place for them to even have a personality. The game, from an entertainment / contest point of view is not about them. Nothing will change, however, while their boss thinks they are part of the entertainment.

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      • Dan
        Warming the Bench
        • Oct 2010
        • 338

        Well, what...wow I'm speechless. That was the biggest load of rubbish I've ever heard

        Originally posted by liz
        But while umpires are critical to the game and certainly deserve respect, the football field is not a place for them to even have a personality.
        Exactly I don't pay money to watch an umpire ruin a game and think they are the king of the world, I want to watch footballers play football, the game is about the players not the officials!
        I See It But I Don't Believe It!!!!

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        • i'm-uninformed2
          Reefer Madness
          • Oct 2003
          • 4653

          Read the fine print of the Geishen quote: " the vast majority were there."

          Not "all were correct" or "every decision was right" but he got some wrong - except Geishen is clearly too much of a p###ant to say so in black and white language. That is, the afl is comfortable with incompetence - or worse
          'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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          • SPC
            Pushing for Selection
            • Jan 2011
            • 95

            Originally posted by Triple B
            Did we really expect anything different? Not me, that's for sure.

            They pick out 4 decisions that can be argued to the letter of the law and disregard a multitude of crook decisions which cannot be defended.
            It was always going to be this way unfortunately, as we predicted yesterday!
            - Geischen would pick out the ones he could defend and not mention all of the ones that were wrong or more importantly not paid against!
            - The press would not take them on (AFL House) in any way, shape or form. Either they are on short leash from Demetriou or they are just a fan based mob with no backbone...
            - Still cant believe the Grundy one on Ballantyne!! If holding someones shirt is a free when they are going at you, then they would be paying frees every 2 minutes!!!

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            • Dan
              Warming the Bench
              • Oct 2010
              • 338

              As other posters have stated they picked out the easy frees. I want to know about the two Ballyntine goals, is it a free kick if you touch someone and they trip over their feet? Even the commentators were saying that the free kick shouldn't have been awarded and was very, very soft. Or is it a free if you have someone up in you face taking little swipes at you and you push them back and just skim their face? If they weren't awarded we would have won, that is a few if's though and I know that the result is all set in stone and dodgy umpiring shouldn't have been a factor if we didn't turn off in the 3rd quarter
              I See It But I Don't Believe It!!!!

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              • mcs
                Travelling Swannie!!
                • Jul 2007
                • 8168

                Originally posted by Owen87
                "Chamberlain came in for particular scorn on supporter forums and social networking sites, but Gieschen said he was comfortable with the "bubbly, gregarious" umpire showing his personality, provided his umpiring maintained a high standard."

                Guessing somebody at AFL house has been reading RWO
                As much as I'm sure Razor Ray is a wonderful, bubbly and highly entertaining guy off the field, that is where his 'personality' imo should stay. The game on the field, as Liz said is not about the umpires but about the 44 blokes actually kicking and handballing the footy. As is often said, the best umpires are the ones that do their job well and stay out of the limelight and don't look to be in the limelight. Simon Taufel in Cricket is one that I often think of - an exceptional umpire who very rarely makes a mistake. Billy Bowden is also a very good umpire, but the theatre associated with him takes away from it, and sometimes I think can impact his ability to do his job correctly. Same might just go for Razor Ray.

                Unsuprising comments from Gischen though- I certainly didn't expect anything different from AFL house. If you are just going to pick out a few incidents, then its easy to make it look like the umpires got everything right. As I've said earlier in the thread, its the inconsistency that infuriates me more than there being wrong decisions made (though shockers like the Grundy call are absolutely infuriating!)
                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                • giant
                  Veterans List
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 4731

                  Enough. I've decided I'm going to boycott the game this week - I think we should all do it. Yes it will hurt the club in the short term but the AFL needs to be shown we can't be taken for granted.

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                  • bodgie
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 501

                    If its OK, and implicitly encouraged, for umpires to show their 'individual personalities' in such an open manner, when their required 'high standards' are somewhat questionable then its highly likely their personalities will open them up to more abuse for different reasons. This must reduce the threats of libel and shutdowns surely!

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                    • SPC
                      Pushing for Selection
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 95

                      Originally posted by giant
                      Enough. I've decided I'm going to boycott the game this week - I think we should all do it. Yes it will hurt the club in the short term but the AFL needs to be shown we can't be taken for granted.
                      Imagine the steam that would be coming out of Demetrious ears if an important game was boycotted by upset fans - be worth the protest just for that alone!

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                      • erica
                        Happy and I know it
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1247

                        Originally posted by SPC
                        Imagine the steam that would be coming out of Demetrious ears if an important game was boycotted by upset fans - be worth the protest just for that alone!
                        Doubt he would consider it important. Only one of the teams is a Melbourne team.
                        All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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                        • longmile
                          Crumber
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 3367

                          Whats the point of boycotting the game?
                          Thats a negative against the Swans and not the AFL and the umpires. We need everyone we can get at the game this weekend; its a very important one against the Bulldogs, to show everyone we haven't blown our wad yet.

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                          • giant
                            Veterans List
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 4731

                            The point is to demonstrate that Sydney fans won't be treated like the hick country cousins. If there is a crowd of 15K this week and they know exactly why, that would scare the beejesus out of the AFL. If everyone turns up like nothing happened, then they know we were squealing like stuck pigs to no great effect.

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                            • Big Al
                              Veterans List
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 7007

                              Understand where your coming from Giant but I'm not going to hurt my nephew who wouldn't understand and I'm not going to deprive the team of my support in what's an important game. Sometimes we just have to suck eggs and realise life sometimes isn't fair and just move on.

                              I'm already in game mode and looking forward to such things as seeing the team selected on Thursday night, wondering if the Ressies will be playing at Fox Studios Indoor bowling centre because of the weather and of course looking forward to giving the dogs some stick on Saturday.
                              ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                              Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                              • Nich
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2010
                                • 1291

                                Insert 'The Wiggles - Wake Up Jeff' clip here.

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