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  • S120
    On the Rookie List
    • Apr 2011
    • 166

    #46
    I'd rather Pyke be our 2nd ruckman/forward in any case but particularly if we are to continue down the avenue of having a monstrously tall forward line. Pyke's greater speed, tackling and athleticism becomes more valuable when it comes to keeping the ball locked in the forward 50.

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    • Captain
      Captain of the Side
      • Feb 2004
      • 3602

      #47
      Pyke needs to learn to kick before he can be thought about as a forward. That won't happen in 12 months.

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      • ugg
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        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 15970

        #48
        Originally posted by Captain
        Pyke needs to learn to kick before he can be thought about as a forward. That won't happen in 12 months.
        Would you apply the same criteria to Reid?
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        • Doctor
          Bay 29
          • Sep 2003
          • 2757

          #49
          Pyke can kick. His first shot at goal last night was awful but he's generally a pretty decent kick of the footy. He'd have to be favourite to get the 2nd ruckman gig at this stage. It's hard to see Jesse fitting in anywhere atm.
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          • Cpt. Kirk
            Warming the Bench
            • Feb 2011
            • 351

            #50
            Originally posted by Doctor
            Pyke can kick. His first shot at goal last night was awful but he's generally a pretty decent kick of the footy. He'd have to be favourite to get the 2nd ruckman gig at this stage. It's hard to see Jesse fitting in anywhere atm.
            Agreed. Jesse White will be an interesting story by the end of this year, will he have played well enough to become a regular or will he continue to be a fringe player and maybe delisted, Does any1 know how long he has left on his contract.

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            • 707
              Veterans List
              • Aug 2009
              • 6204

              #51
              From what I've seen, Pyke is the superior tap ruckman although I'm sure someone on RWO can provide some real data on hit outs and hit outs to advantage on Seaby (as a Swan) and Pyke.

              As a FF/ruck I prefer Pyke due to his greater speed and athleticism, he actually looks dangerous around goal with pace, size, leap etc.

              Also not sure what that means for White

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              • wolftone57
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2008
                • 5854

                #52
                Two 'Miltons' Mummy and Pykie all warm and fuzzy inside damned frightening running at a hundred miles an hour at you. If you don't know what a 'Milton' is, Milton was a cartoon monster who was frightening to look at but friendly and lovable.They will be an awesome combo and very hard to match up on as they are both mobile and huge. Pykie is deceptively quick and I saw him run a couple of ours down and lay crunching tackles in the Intra. Mummy already does this and in a game two big guys that can run them down and lay bone crunching tackles are going to make the opposition think twice.
                Last edited by wolftone57; 26 February 2012, 07:55 AM.

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                • Reggi
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2718

                  #53


                  He is definately coming along
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                  • dimelb
                    pr. dim-melb; m not f
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 6889

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Reggi
                    Interesting article, but Morton at 184 cm and 83 kg is not competing for the ruck!
                    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                    • dimelb
                      pr. dim-melb; m not f
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 6889

                      #55
                      Originally posted by 707
                      From what I've seen, Pyke is the superior tap ruckman although I'm sure someone on RWO can provide some real data on hit outs and hit outs to advantage on Seaby (as a Swan) and Pyke.

                      As a FF/ruck I prefer Pyke due to his greater speed and athleticism, he actually looks dangerous around goal with pace, size, leap etc.

                      Also not sure what that means for White
                      I can't find stats immediately, but for the last two seasons I have kept tabs on Pykey's hitouts to advantage, and he consistently outperforms just about all other ruckmen in that stat. He is a very good tap ruck, and a menacing forward in the making.
                      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                      • S120
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 166

                        #56
                        Originally posted by dimelb
                        Interesting article, but Morton at 184 cm and 83 kg is not competing for the ruck!
                        Run that by me again, Mr Cordy!

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16764

                          #57
                          Originally posted by dimelb
                          Interesting article, but Morton at 184 cm and 83 kg is not competing for the ruck!
                          It is quite a bizarre article really, coming from someone like Cordy who has the football knowledge to actually do some research before writing an article. Was the interchange rule responsible for Pyke injuring his quad muscle early last year and failing to return to the paddock until very late in the season, too late to properly push for senior selection?

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                          • dimelb
                            pr. dim-melb; m not f
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 6889

                            #58
                            Originally posted by liz
                            It is quite a bizarre article really, coming from someone like Cordy who has the football knowledge to actually do some research before writing an article. Was the interchange rule responsible for Pyke injuring his quad muscle early last year and failing to return to the paddock until very late in the season, too late to properly push for senior selection?
                            Didn't Pyke re-injure his leg? I think that may have been a factor. On top of that, the selectors seem to have decided that one ruck was enough, which I think was a wrong call, highlighted by the relative success of Geelong, Hawthorn and West Coast, who all went in with two rucks.
                            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16764

                              #59
                              Originally posted by dimelb
                              Didn't Pyke re-injure his leg? I think that may have been a factor. On top of that, the selectors seem to have decided that one ruck was enough, which I think was a wrong call, highlighted by the relative success of Geelong, Hawthorn and West Coast, who all went in with two rucks.
                              I don't think the selectors ever decided one ruck was enough. They just decided that Seaby wasn't versatile enough for the second ruck spot. They used Pyke early in the season, until he got injured but not before looking decent enough in the forward line. (Remember the Dogs game?) Then they used LRT, then White. And I think it is highly likely they would have stuck with Pyke had he been available for selection. But given that he wasn't, I just don't see how Cordy can ascribe his absence to the interchange rule.

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                              • Ruck'n'Roll
                                Ego alta, ergo ictus
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 3990

                                #60
                                Originally posted by dimelb
                                Interesting article, but Morton at 184 cm and 83 kg is not competing for the ruck!
                                Poor syntax or a crappy editorial work . . . . or has Cords gone mad?

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