Giants fans will outnumber Swans fans

[WeHaveTheGoodes]

My excuse is that I'm part of the secret SCG lobby

*secret handshake*

In all honest I'm not going because;

Crap ANZ Stadium
Crap ANZ beer
Crap ANZ location
Miles from the Darlinghurst Tap House
Crap game
No one to go with
Can't really be botherd

I went to ANZ once and really it is the pits. Even if we get 30k there it will be souless.

I went to the infamous swans vs roos final and it was the worst atmosphere i have even experienced at a game of rules.

Plus its no ones home ground..its only purpose is too make the AFL money at the detriment of our home ground advantage.

[desredandwhite]

there seems to be a real smugness in some swans supporters who post here.

Examples?

We don't need them at all.

Disagree. As I mentioned before, the club needs EVERYONE it can get. If you cut out everyone but the die-hards, I would guess our membership would drop by a third, easily.

They can be replaced by true die hards who know what a real rivalry means.

Replaced just like that eh? I'll pick up a couple at Coles on my way back from work then.

As I said, I admire the passion you're showing, and I do agree with some of your points - but I simply don't believe we can afford to be choosy about who we "allow" to support the club.

[Big Al]

Can you tell me who is leaving the Swans to join GWS. I know many with joint memberships (I'll probably be the same but my Wests Tigers membership takes priority) but I know of no one who has stopped being a Swans member to join GWS.

[WeHaveTheGoodes]

As I said, I admire the passion you're showing, and I do agree with some of your points - but I simply don't believe we can afford to be choosy about who we "allow" to support the club.

But we can afford to allow them to buy GWS memberships! Flawed logic is flawed!

Must be a Sydney thing because i really can't understand why that GWS membership cant be another swans membership instead!

[Matt79]

He should buy a second swans membership. That money should go to the swans, not a rich upstart who don't really care about his support.

It's simple i dont know why you have complicated things.

Welcome to RWO WeHaveTheGoodes...

However, I am with Des...your post contradicts what you have been saying!

You probably have read my post previously but I am keen to get your view on my position...
*My background - Only missed 4 Swans' homegames since 1982 (I was 3 then), I travel interstate 3-5 times year plus every final to watch my beloved Swans and pay a premium for my Ultimate11 membership for my wife and I. So I am sure you can see that I am as committed and passionate about the Swans as anyone*

With that background in mind... on top of my Swans' membership this year I got an AFL membership which gets me into games in Melbourne. I also had to nominate a club to which I can get entry into their home games too. Now, I have a swans membership so I already get into all our games. So common sense would say that I would get GWS support on the AFL membership so I can get into their home games up here in Sydney. This is SAVING me my hard earned $$$$. I love AFL and will go to some GWS games to watch AFL! Would I wear their colours...no!

Where does this sit in your thinking?

BTW - I will be there at ANZ on Saturday night in my red and white passionately screaming for the Swans...but my AFL membership is giving me the entry!

[WeHaveTheGoodes]

Can you tell me who is leaving the Swans to join GWS. I know many with joint memberships (I'll probably be the same but my Wests Tigers membership takes priority) but I know of no one who has stopped being a Swans member to join GWS.

Well shall see if membership numbers decrease after this season. Not everyone has the cash flow to buy double me,memberships. What if families decide that GWS is the better option? Or what if little johnny decides that he is a giant now and his family follow suite? What about the casual fans?

It's just not worth taking that risk in such a fickle market like sydney! If Sydney was like Melbourne towards aussie rules - ok.

You can gloss it up all you want and justify it until you're blue in the face..but as a melbourne football supporter it does not make any sense in a market like sydney!

[Big Al]

But we can afford to allow them to buy GWS memberships! Flawed logic is flawed!

Must be a Sydney thing because i really can't understand why that GWS membership cant be another swans membership instead!

Are you serious??

Instead of a GWS membership I should buy a Swans membership. Maybe I could put my eski on the empty chair I guess. I guess those who want to see the 6 games at Skoda will need to sneak in to avoid paying because they won't be able to afford it after buying multiple Swans memberships.

[WeHaveTheGoodes]

Welcome to RWO WeHaveTheGoodes...

However, I am with Des...your post contradicts what you have been saying!

You probably have read my post previously but I am keen to get your view on my position...
*My background - Only missed 4 Swans' homegames since 1982 (I was 3 then), I travel interstate 3-5 times year plus every final to watch my beloved Swans and pay a premium for my Ultimate11 membership for my wife and I. So I am sure you can see that I am as committed and passionate about the Swans as anyone*

With that background in mind... on top of my Swans' membership this year I got an AFL membership which gets me into games in Melbourne. I also had to nominate a club to which I can get entry into their home games too. Now, I have a swans membership so I already get into all our games. So common sense would say that I would get GWS support on the AFL membership so I can get into their home games up here in Sydney. This is SAVING me my hard earned $$$$. I love AFL and will go to some GWS games to watch AFL! Would I wear their colours...no!

Where does this sit in your thinking?

BTW - I will be there at ANZ on Saturday night in my red and white passionately screaming for the Swans...but my AFL membership is giving me the entry!

AFL memberships are fine, the most passionate fans take out that kind of membership. And it makes sense to select a local team as opposed to one in another state.

I am more concerned about the ones turning up in GWS colours or the ones buying a direct membership to GWS. Give that money to the swans!

You in now way stated that you are going as GWS fan.

Onwards to victory!

[desredandwhite]

But we can afford to allow them to buy GWS memberships! Flawed logic is flawed!

Must be a Sydney thing because i really can't understand why that GWS membership cant be another swans membership instead!

Nothing wrong with my logic. Whether or not they buy a GWS membership has nothing to do with them buying a Swans membership in the first place.

As long as they are buying a Swans membership, why should you or I or anyone care whether they are ALSO buying a GWS membership? IF I could afford it, and I had a less hectic schedule, I might even have bought a GWS membership myself so I could go to more live games. I go to Melbourne/Brisbane etc for away games, is that also wrong that I am giving money to other clubs? I go to games not even involving Sydney sometimes.

Why can't it be another Swans membership instead? Because buying an extra swans membership will not allow someone to go to extra AFL games locally.

To reduce it to a bad analogy... I would like to buy a hat and a scarf as I would like to keep the sun out of my eyes AND keep my neck warm. Buying two hats does not give me any additional advantage over buying just one hat.

[WeHaveTheGoodes]

Nothing wrong with my logic. Whether or not they buy a GWS membership has nothing to do with them buying a Swans membership in the first place.

As long as they are buying a Swans membership, why should you or I or anyone care whether they are ALSO buying a GWS membership? IF I could afford it, and I had a less hectic schedule, I might even have bought a GWS membership myself so I could go to more live games. I go to Melbourne/Brisbane etc for away games, is that also wrong that I am giving money to other clubs? I go to games not even involving Sydney sometimes.

Why can't it be another Swans membership instead? Because buying an extra swans membership will not allow someone to go to extra AFL games locally.

To reduce it to a bad analogy... I would like to buy a hat and a scarf as I would like to keep the sun out of my eyes AND keep my neck warm. Buying two hats does not give me any additional advantage over buying just one hat.

Again its this sydney attitude i don't understand. We are raised very differently down here. GWS is the enemy not our friend.

[desredandwhite]

This is an interesting thread, with many bizarre and varied points of view. However, it is distracting us from the real discussion: How many records we can break with a big win over GWS on Saturday!

[Matt79]

This is an interesting thread, with many bizarre and varied points of view. However, it is distracting us from the real discussion: How many records we can break with a big win over GWS on Saturday!

Des, I am also interested to hear what people would think is a 'good enough' win? I suspect a win by 4 goals or less will still be disappointing in many people's eyes. Personally I hope for a minimum 10 goal win.

Swans by 75!

[WeHaveTheGoodes]

Great first post WeHaveTheGoodes.

GWS and Sheedy can go to hell in a hand basket.

Greed has driven the forming of a new team in Sydney.
I can't wait for them to pump $220 million into it; then watch it fold.

Yeah it's nothing but greed by vlad and his yes men. Vlad is on a KPI bonus..he needs to establish this second team in sydney, which he has so the TV rights can go into billions, which he has managed to do. He needs this so his salary can jump a mil and his wife can buy that 4000 dress she has been eyeing out and so Andy can expand his already huge girth by going to expensive nosheries in brighton.

That multi million dollar pad in toorak doesn't pay for itself you know.

I just hope its not to the detriment of my swans.

[Swansongster]

@WeHaveTheGoodes I disagree with your opinion and struggle to see any logic in it but I respect your right to have that opinion and voice it illogically.

[Big Al]

Again its this sydney attitude i don't understand. We are raised very differently down here. GWS is the enemy not our friend.

No they're not and if you understood the Sydney market you would realise this. You do realise who the enemy of the AFL in Sydney is don't you and why the AFL put a team out west where there is 2 million people and a lot of corporate dollars to go around??