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  • nicko18
    Warming the Bench
    • Mar 2003
    • 213

    #61
    Sydney finally got weekly footy, which was one of the AFL's priorities. So I can't see the swans playing home games in Melbourne on top of the half dozen games they already play down there yearly.

    I also think it involves throwing away a significant scg advantage to do this, its bad enough playing the pies at anz... so I hope they don't consider doing it, you'll probably find a lot of melb based supporters who agree as well
    Last edited by nicko18; 26 April 2012, 02:05 PM.

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    • swansprincess
      On the Rookie List
      • Jun 2011
      • 306

      #62
      Originally posted by nicko18
      Sydney finally got weekly footy, which was one of the AFL's priorities. So I can't see the swans playing home games in Melbourne on top of the half dozen games they already play down there yearly.

      I also think it involves throwing away a significant scg advantage to do this, its bad enough playing the pies at anz... so I hope they don't consider doing it, you'll probably find a lot of melb based supporters who agree as well
      I am a victorian based supporter and while it would be nice to have more swans game to go to (rather than the 4 at etihad, 1 mcg and 1 geelong? ) I would obviously want the swans to win as many games as possible in the year over anything else and they have more chance of doing that playing in sydney. So I am happy to have not many games here as it is in theory better for the team.

      Although having said that the GF and many finals games are played in melbourne, more specifically at the mcg and we have not played well there in a long time, so more games there in the season could be better for us to have more practice playing there, but also bad, as getting the points comes into play.
      So as previously said, I think the amount of melb games is fair and should stay about as is, but it would be better imo to play more at the mcg and less at etihad.

      (Also sorry if this doesn't make alot of sense; I know what I'm trying to say, just having trouble conveying it and this is clearly the wrong thread.)

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      • cruiser
        What the frack!
        • Jul 2004
        • 6114

        #63
        Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
        Waiting until round 7 for a game in Melbourne is a joke. Surely the AFL are aware of the following the swans have in Melbourne? I'd hope they will fix that up next year.
        I agree. This game against Hawthorn should be played in Melbourne. And why do we always play Geelong down at Skilled every year? What's the deal with limiting Sydney to five games a year in Melbourne?
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        • wolftone57
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2008
          • 5835

          #64
          Originally posted by swansprincess
          I am a victorian based supporter and while it would be nice to have more swans game to go to (rather than the 4 at etihad, 1 mcg and 1 geelong? ) I would obviously want the swans to win as many games as possible in the year over anything else and they have more chance of doing that playing in sydney. So I am happy to have not many games here as it is in theory better for the team.

          Although having said that the GF and many finals games are played in melbourne, more specifically at the mcg and we have not played well there in a long time, so more games there in the season could be better for us to have more practice playing there, but also bad, as getting the points comes into play.
          So as previously said, I think the amount of melb games is fair and should stay about as is, but it would be better imo to play more at the mcg and less at etihad.

          (Also sorry if this doesn't make alot of sense; I know what I'm trying to say, just having trouble conveying it and this is clearly the wrong thread.)
          No home games in Melbourne. Games at the G yes please, because we have to get used to playing there. If we don't play there during the year how are we going to play come finals time?

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          • wolftone57
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2008
            • 5835

            #65
            Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
            You disagree on whose run and spread is better, but the ability to do so will determine the outcome of this game. Although not on "the field of combat" wolfie . . . . the match review panel wouldn't go for that at all! :-)
            Footy is a combat of sorts. As soon as you set opposing sides to even an argument they become combatants. I don't agree with the sentiment that they are a better run and spread side than us this year as we have yet to play them and either prove or disprove that statement.

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            • wolftone57
              Veterans List
              • Aug 2008
              • 5835

              #66
              Originally posted by Dosser
              Yes. Because I am in Melbourne I have yet to see a live game this year. All I have to go on is what I can see on a limited TV screen, so I am prepared to be corrected by those who have been to a game. Last year our spread was a problem, however if you are now saying that we have sorted this then you have made me a happy dosser.
              Have a look at some of Jetta's goals, they came from running from the back half and bombing it long to open space. We still have moments when the players seem to be almost lazy in the kick outs but generally it has been very good and we are running the ball very fast. The reserves are doing the same things and last week got it right in a big way. One goal against North took a matter of 30 seconds from FB. Yes we are better.

              Where you beat the Hawks though is through stopping up the gaps. Play man on man and make them kick long. Stop the incessant leads they seem to be able to produce, Eagles did that very well. You also need to control the midfield. I thing we have one of the best midfields in the comp and are just as good if not better than the Hawks. We definitely have more talent there but they have the experience. Our mids are faster, cleverer and better tacklers.

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              • ernie koala
                Senior Player
                • May 2007
                • 3251

                #67
                Originally posted by Dosser
                I disagree. The Hawks' run and spread is far superior to ours and on a big ground they will find themselves in a lot of space on the counter attack. Against Norf we were able to stifle it because of the smaller ground and they couldnt get away from us, but now we need to adjust from the SCG to York Park. Not impossible by any means, but it will test us to see just how far we have come in that area.
                I agree.
                More space will certainly suit the Hawks more than us. It will give them more space for their style of pinpoint passing
                It will be harder the Swans to maintain enough pressure to disrupt it.
                By no means impossible, but a better team, on a bigger ground, makes this much more difficult than last week.
                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                • ernie koala
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 3251

                  #68
                  Originally posted by swans_premiers
                  Longmire said lrt and smith will Likely come into the squad...

                  Not necessarily the final team.
                  That's true, but Horse seems to like having LRT in his team.
                  Personally I think both White and Everitt deserve to be in the 21 this week....
                  Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                  • GongSwan
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 1362

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Dosser
                    I disagree. The Hawks' run and spread is far superior to ours and on a big ground they will find themselves in a lot of space on the counter attack. Against Norf we were able to stifle it because of the smaller ground and they couldnt get away from us, but now we need to adjust from the SCG to York Park. Not impossible by any means, but it will test us to see just how far we have come in that area.
                    Actually, I agree that Hawks spread is better than ours, probably better than Norf, who beat us in that area as well, what I'm saying is if we play the game on our terms, ie hard contested tight footy, winning the clearances and keeping it firmly lodged in our forward 50, and when I say winning the clearances I mean winning them in a big way and finding targets, if teh ball goes into open space too much the Hawks will kill us with their foot skills and the keepings off footy
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                    • Dosser
                      Just wild about Harry
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1833

                      #70
                      I've just been reading the Hawks thread on BF (instead of writing emails for work...) and the only Swans player that they talk about in 14 pages is Malceski. It seems that if they stop Eski then they win the game. Hmmm...

                      (sorry - changed that to Hawks)
                      Last edited by Dosser; 26 April 2012, 03:43 PM.

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                      • undy
                        Fatal error: Allowed memo
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1231

                        #71
                        Originally posted by ernie koala
                        That's true, but Horse seems to like having LRT in his team.
                        Personally I think both White and Everitt deserve to be in the 21 this week....
                        The plus for having LRT in the side, sometimes overlooked when comparing his ruck/forward work with Jesse, is that if Grundy or Superted is injured, LRT can play d on a power forward. If Hawthorn had anyone in that category.
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                        • Beerman
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 823

                          #72
                          Originally posted by GongSwan
                          Actually, I agree that Hawks spread is better than ours, probably better than Norf, who beat us in that area as well, what I'm saying is if we play the game on our terms, ie hard contested tight footy, winning the clearances and keeping it firmly lodged in our forward 50, and when I say winning the clearances I mean winning them in a big way and finding targets, if teh ball goes into open space too much the Hawks will kill us with their foot skills and the keepings off footy
                          Remember how Port killed us with their spread in the 2nd quarter? They scored several times by switching it across half back and then kicking to players without a Swan within 15 metres of them. If we play like that against Hawthorn, we lose. Fortunately we tightened it up in the second half. Play like we did against Geelong last year with pressure both on the ball carrier and the receiver and we can force errors, force contests and get our share of the ball.

                          It's going to be tough - hopefully Hawks will be tired from the trip to Perth and a tough game against West Coast

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                          • nomae
                            Regular in the Side
                            • May 2006
                            • 523

                            #73
                            Mumford out for 3-4 weeks due to back infection from syringe. Bit disappointing Dr Gibbs...

                            At least Seabs gets a good run at it though.

                            Hopefully everyone's favourite Nick Smith to come in this week for Rohan. LRT stiff to miss but can't find a place for him - I prefer natural forwards up there.

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                            • Dan
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 338

                              #74
                              From Facebook:

                              HE'S BACK!

                              Adam Goodes returns for his record breaking 304th game against Hawthorn on Sunday. Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Nick Smith and Tommy Walsh have all been included in the squad.

                              Injured forward Gary Rohan the only confirmed out at this stage - http://bit.ly/IpQudt
                              I See It But I Don't Believe It!!!!

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                              • stellation
                                scott names the planets
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 9718

                                #75
                                Hawthorn v Sydney Swans
                                Sunday April 29, 2012
                                1.10pm AEST,
                                Aurora Stadium, Launceston, Tasmania

                                B M.Mattner, H.Grundy, A.Johnson
                                HB J.McVeigh, T.Richards, R.Shaw
                                C K.Jack, J.Bolton, L.Jetta
                                HF N.Malceski, A.Goodes, A.Everitt
                                F C.Bird, S.Reid, B.McGlynn
                                Foll M.Seaby, J.Kennedy, R.O'Keefe
                                I/C (from) T.Armstrong, D.Hannebery, L.Parker, L.Roberts-Thomson, N.Smith, J.White, T.Walsh

                                In: L.Roberts-Thomson , N.Smith , T.Walsh , A.Goodes
                                Out: G.Rohan (Broken Leg)

                                New: T.Walsh (St Kilda)

                                ?Lewie is capable of playing in a few roles. If he feels training-wise that he?s going OK and he?s really comfortable, he will come into the mix and he can play anywhere.

                                ?We?re fortunate that Jesse White played pretty well last week and (Mark) Seaby as well, so it gives us a bit of flexibility and a bit of depth and we can play them in a few different roles if required.?
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