Changes for Rnd6 v Crows

[stellation]

Well there is hope right there then, Roughead used to be worse than Sam currently is....

That might be a bit tough on Jarryd, he wasn't exactly Davo when he came into the league but he's kicked 259.179 so far in 8 seasons and has never finished a season with more behinds than goals.

[ugg]

Maybe this is why Nicky D is the new runner. He can provide a few pointers to Sammy while he's running in for a set shot.

[swansrule100]

Reid needs an early goal to get his confidence up, like against freo, he looked so good, since that bump he has not been the same.

But he is drawing a key defender and his work off the ball is exceptional. The time we put him into him now is going to be repaid 100 times over I reckon

[ScottH]

That might be a bit tough on Jarryd, he wasn't exactly Davo when he came into the league but he's kicked 259.179 so far in 8 seasons and has never finished a season with more behinds than goals.

what about the OOBOTF??

[Triple B]

...he wasn't exactly Davo when he came into the league ....

...and who has??

You, of all people....lol

[stellation]

what about the OOBOTF??

600 career OOBOTF to date, I believe!

[stellation]

...and who has??

You, of all people....lol

Well obviously nobody, in my eyes at least.

[stellation]

Maybe this is why Nicky D is the new runner. He can provide a few pointers to Sammy while he's running in for a set shot.

"Look Sammy, you need to treat your shots on goal like you treat women- nail as many as you can before you get caught out!"

[Primmy]

N Davis; I wonder why he is now part of the fold again

Ah, he never strayed that far away! Anyway he has been doing some coaching with the Academy (if I have my facts right) and probably they had a runner down with the woggies and he pinch hit for him. BTW Jude confirmed it was him, but I don't think his "voice" is going to be ruled in his favour.

Who cares, its great to have him involved, no matter what. We'll wear him down in the end

[Nico]

I loved the team effort against Hawthorn but one thing frustrates the #$%^ out of me and that is young Sam's kicking action.There has been no improvement at all since last year. Compare his set shots to Roughheads! J.Roughhead really concentrates hard runs evenly and straight and drops the ball with one hand guiding it perfectly on his boot.The result is a staight kick and goal after goal.Sam is still stuttering and stabbing the ball and dropping it too high etc etc.Where are the coaches???

He also swings his foot across his body. So poor dropping technique and swinging foot means he goes left nearly every time. It is almost as if he gets lucky when one goes straight. I maintain it has a lot do with him being pidgeon toed with the swinging foot. Indeed, where are the coaches? He was recruited as a key position defender so that might say something. I noticed Schoenmakers got him this week so clubs may not seem him as the danger they previously thought. May not the best backman from now which might help.

[stellation]

He also swings his foot across his body. So poor dropping technique and swinging foot means he goes left nearly every time. It is almost as if he gets lucky when one goes straight. I maintain it has a lot do with him being pidgeon toed with the swinging foot. Indeed, where are the coaches? He was recruited as a key position defender so that might say something. I noticed Schoenmakers got him this week so clubs may not seem him as the danger they previously thought. May not the best backman from now which might help.

From what I've seen of the Hawks so far this year it's not abnormal for Shoenmakers to take a decent forward and for the far better defender in Gibson to either take a lesser forward or play loose, I assume the logic being that he can then have a defensive impact on more contests than if he was having to stick closely to the #1 forward. That said, that Sammy didn't give him a bit of a touch up, or just break even, is a bit of a worry.

I think we just need at least 1 more forward to lead in straight lines, we generally have too many that float in- I think LRT, for example, is a decent marking forward, but normally through floating into a pack/contest and not often from taking the ball out on a lead- Andrejs appeared to be playing this way (hard to tell on tv) on the weekend, whereas the weekend before he did a bit of both. It doesn't leave a lot of space for Sammy (or any key forward, really) to work in. I think we're also playing without a half forward line again, and Sammy is playing closer to goal, and when we try to move it in quick we're often trying to hit a target from a bit further out than is ideal for quick movement and it makes it easier for it to become a pack instead of a 1 on 1 contest.

[Danzar]

I love Sam Reid but his kicking for goal is deplorable. Do I want him out? I don't know. I don't think so, but I do know that TDL knows how to kick a goal. Is it time to reinvent him as a key position backman?

Happy to go with no changes unless forced.

My concern with Reid is that not only is his goal kicking deplorable, he's no longer sticking his marks like he did in the first two rounds. I wouldn't suggest dropping him but his form slump needs to be seen as something wider than just his accuracy at goal.

[Auntie.Gerald]

its very natural for a tall forward to go thru ups and downs the first 3 to 5 years

most CHF and FF say around 24 yrs of age is when they felt they were making head way and actually delivering consistently !

he is miles away yet and like tom hawkins and Cloke they need time

[Hartijon]

its very natural for a tall forward to go thru ups and downs the first 3 to 5 years

most CHF and FF say around 24 yrs of age is when they felt they were making head way and actually delivering consistently !

he is miles away yet and like tom hawkins and Cloke they need time

This is very true but progress is not inevitable! Cloke worked very hard to improve his goal kicking,running and body work.It paid off.Hawkins seems to have just suddenly "got it" the way we hope and pray Jesse will one day. I would like to see Sam trying different styles and procedures to kick. The AFL is full of forwards who had lean patches and then tried something new and it worked. Sam has the most potential to be a superstar but needs to work really hard on his game.I am not party to training so I really can't comment on what his effort on the track is like.

[Triple B]

Does anybody seriously think that both Sam and the club are not acutely aware of his kicking woes?

Does anybody seriously think they are not doing everything in their power to rectify it?

We just need patience and hope he comes good, but if he doesn't and remains a dodgy kick the rest of his playing days, I'd like to think the club we love has done everything they could to get him up to speed. It will come, he's technique may not be flawless, but I'm convinced 90% of his problem at the minute is between the ears...