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  • Swansinger
    Senior Player
    • Mar 2003
    • 1099

    #46
    I don't know all the salary cap issues .
    If we do get an advantage , great.

    But what about the Victorian clubs , who get an advantage by having their reserve teams play in a stronger competition than our reserves ?
    How come the Vic media do not mention that ?
    We've had no such luck since the Port Melbourne arrangement was canned.

    And so what if our best players get well paid ?
    Many of our stars - hey , they are all stars , but you know what I mean - such as McVeigh , Hannabery and Jack , were developed (at the top level) in Sydney , by Sydney.
    Others , such as Joey , Mummy , Teddy , Mitch , would likely have jumped at the chance to join other clubs , without a fat contract.

    Is money a factor ? Sure it is . But to the extent which interstate commentators would have you believe ?
    I think not.
    You could offer me $10 mill a year , but you'd never make me a first-grade footballer.
    The performance levels of our current players are testament to what the club has achieved in making silk purses from sows' ears , rather than flashing wads of cash.

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    • Matimbo
      Warming the Bench
      • Apr 2009
      • 334

      #47
      It's 9.8% of total player payments and my understanding is it can be spent as we see fit.

      For all those whingers in other cities, try moving to Sydney and living on your current salary + 9.8%. I guarantee you'd be going backwards in living standard.

      IMO:

      1. 9.8% is fair and reasonable; and
      2. There should be a reduction for clubs in cheap cities ... LOL, see how Adelaide likes that
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      • erica
        Happy and I know it
        • Jan 2008
        • 1247

        #48
        Strangely, it isn't Eddie complaining about our salary cap concessions this time. It's the team we beat in the GF.

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        • Ruck'n'Roll
          Ego alta, ergo ictus
          • Nov 2003
          • 3990

          #49
          As mentioned be some bright spark on the Tippett thread, winning a premiership then plucking Kurt for anything less than top$ will undoubtedly increase pressure on our allowance. It's already starting, this from the team Kurt rejected . . . Sydney closes in on Tippett deal
          Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 7 October 2012, 07:37 AM.

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          • goswannie14
            Leadership Group
            • Sep 2005
            • 11166

            #50
            Originally posted by erica
            Strangely, it isn't Eddie complaining about our salary cap concessions this time. It's the team we beat in the GF.

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            But if they had a full forward who couild kick goals under pressure they wouldn't be complaining.
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            • DamY
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2011
              • 1479

              #51
              Swans salary cap concessions

              Originally posted by Matimbo
              It's 9.8% of total player payments and my understanding is it can be spent as we see fit.

              For all those whingers in other cities, try moving to Sydney and living on your current salary + 9.8%. I guarantee you'd be going backwards in living standard.

              IMO:

              1. 9.8% is fair and reasonable; and
              2. There should be a reduction for clubs in cheap cities ... LOL, see how Adelaide likes that
              To put things into perspective, I'm a manager in Sydney for multi-state company, and regionally employees from different states are on different pay scales. Yes, Sydney has the highest pay rates. Why shouldn't AFL players pay reflect that? State legislation for industry wages is not uncommon.

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              • ScottH
                It's Goodes to cheer!!
                • Sep 2003
                • 23665

                #52
                Originally posted by goswannie14
                But if they had a full forward who couild kick goals under pressure they wouldn't be complaining.

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                • Reggi
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2718

                  #53
                  Originally posted by DamY
                  To put things into perspective, I'm a manager in Sydney for multi-state company, and regionally employees from different states are on different pay scales. Yes, Sydney has the highest pay rates. Why shouldn't AFL players pay reflect that? State legislation for industry wages is not uncommon.
                  Was going to say the same. I have a fairly senior gig at a large corporate. 10% is less than the staff difference I have between Sydney melb bris and Adelaide where I have staff. Our guys who move to Sydney woul want more than 10%.

                  Andrew Ireland is probably right it is good management. But perception....
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                  • erica
                    Happy and I know it
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 1247

                    #54
                    Originally posted by goswannie14
                    But if they had a full forward who couild kick goals under pressure they wouldn't be complaining.
                    All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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                    • DamY
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1479

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Reggi
                      Was going to say the same. I have a fairly senior gig at a large corporate. 10% is less than the staff difference I have between Sydney melb bris and Adelaide where I have staff. Our guys who move to Sydney woul want more than 10%.

                      Andrew Ireland is probably right it is good management. But perception....
                      Hi Reggi are you single? lol jk

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                      • DamY
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1479

                        #56
                        No but in all seriousness I think the cost of living issue should be addressed fairly.. if WA has rising COL then they should have similar concessions too, it's only fair. The NSW AFL market does need some attention and assistance, that needs to be considered as well as a successful Swans *and* Giants is important for the AFL.

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8168

                          #57
                          Originally posted by goswannie14
                          But if they had a full forward who couild kick goals under pressure they wouldn't be complaining.
                          They have the 'worlds greatest full forward', except for the fact he can't consistently do what he is paid for - Kick Goals!
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                          • Daisi
                            Senior Player
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 1499

                            #58
                            What the Victorian media and fans seem to forget is that not only is COL more in Sydney, there are also fewer commercial opportunities for players here. AFL players simply do not have the exposure that they do in AFL states, therefore they do not have the chance to earn money through sponsorship, advertising deals or media appearances like they do in the other states. I mean how many AFL footy shows are based in Sydney? I wish somebody would mention this, as it seems a major disadvantage for players with a limited time frame to make money.

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                            • ScottH
                              It's Goodes to cheer!!
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 23665

                              #59
                              Originally posted by mcs
                              They have the 'worlds greatest full forward', except for the fact he can't consistently do what he is paid for - Kick Goals!
                              Twin inconsistent Towers!!

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                              • Reggi
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 2718

                                #60
                                Clubs call foul over 'archaic' Sydney rule

                                I love this article. Ultimate in crap journalism.

                                1 no analysis of the problem. Is Sydney more expensive 'no idea'
                                2 no attribution of the headline 'archaic' - who knows, who says so
                                3 no comment on the fact that Hawthorn post premiership were able to poach Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne and Gunston. All of who would not be cheap.
                                4 pretty obviously two less competent presidents whinging about there lesser performance

                                We have needed to get rid of more players through salary cap than anyone. This circumstance probably has more to do with Goodes and veterans list than anything else

                                Also amusing that all the Melbourne journos ramble on about our lack of talent until it comes to the salary cap
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