Is the 2012 team as good as 2005's

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  • Dirtyburt
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Apr 2012
    • 853

    #31
    Originally posted by Swansongster
    Who would be the 05 sub?
    LRT?

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    • Thunder Shaker
      Aut vincere aut mori
      • Apr 2004
      • 4198

      #32
      The 2012 team is better but with more nemesis sides. We must take the opposition into account because it is only by defeating the opposition that we can win finals.

      2005 - couldn't beat Adelaide. Results: 41-point loss (H), 7-point loss (A).
      2012 - couldn't beat Adelaide or Collingwood. Results: 5-point loss (H), 8-point loss (H).

      The chances are high that we would have to defeat one or both of these sides on the way to the premiership.

      A common feature with these losses has been inaccuracy.
      R4 2005 Adelaide 18.12 (120) d Sydney 11.13 (79)
      - 6 fewer scoring shots, 1 more behind, Adelaide 60.0% accuracy, Sydney 45.8% accuracy.

      R18 2005 - Adelaide 8.6 (54) d Sydney 6.11 (47)
      - 3 more scoring shots, 5 more behinds, Adelaide 57.1% accuracy, Sydney 35.3% accuracy.

      R6 2012 - Adelaide 15.9 (99) d Sydney 14.10 (94)
      - equal scoring shots, 1 more behind, Adelaide 62.5% accuracy, Sydney 58.3% accuracy.

      R20 2012 - Collingwood 12.6 (78) d Sydney 9.16 (70)
      - 7 more scoring shots, 10 more behinds, Collingwood 66.7% accuracy, Sydney 36.0% accuracy.

      Totals
      Bogan teams 53.33 gives 61.6% accuracy
      Sydney Swans 40.50 gives 44.4% accuracy

      If we can improve this inaccuracy, we are a chance to defeat both teams when next we meet them.

      Ironically, it was only our accuracy against Collingwood in 2005 that gave us our most recent win against them.
      R13 2005 Sydney 11.11 (77) d Collingwood 10.16 (76) - won with 4 fewer scoring shots.
      Last edited by Thunder Shaker; 21 August 2012, 05:40 PM. Reason: corrections
      "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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      • dendol
        fat-arsed midfielder
        • Oct 2003
        • 1483

        #33
        Originally posted by R-1
        That 2005 forward line would stretch the 2012 defence mightily, I suspect.
        Yeah I think so too. Also think the 2005 defence would have our current forwards covered, but the current midfield make up for that with better goalkicking ability. Would be close, but I suspect the 2012 midfield would eventually get on top and create enough chances to win.

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        • Captain
          Captain of the Side
          • Feb 2004
          • 3602

          #34
          Ablett kicking across goal down the throat of Jack would help too.

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          • BillyRayCypress
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2012
            • 1379

            #35
            Originally posted by Captain
            Ablett kicking across goal down the throat of Jack would help too.
            Leo kicking it out to Mumford with 30 seconds to play would help as well.
            Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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            • Swansongster
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2008
              • 1264

              #36
              We don't have a Nick Davis to get us into a prelim. But the good news is that in 2012 we probably won't need him to get us out of jail.

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              • Goal Sneak
                Out of Bounds on the Full
                • Jun 2006
                • 653

                #37
                Originally posted by Swansongster
                We don't have a Nick Davis to get us into a prelim. But the good news is that in 2012 we probably won't need him to get us out of jail.
                Jets would come up with something if needed.

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                • Big Al
                  Veterans List
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 7007

                  #38
                  Is the 2012 team as good as 2005's

                  Nick Davis is the 2012 runner and tells Smooch to belt that awful Nick Davis.
                  ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                  Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                  • ScottH
                    It's Goodes to cheer!!
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 23665

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Goal Sneak
                    Jets would come up with something if needed.
                    I'm really looking forward to seeing how he performs on the big stage this Sept.
                    Been very quiet of late. Had some great touches on Sunday.
                    Will he be the 2012 X Factor??

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                    • Dirtyburt
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 853

                      #40
                      Originally posted by ScottH
                      Will he be the 2012 X Factor??
                      I doubt it, he will be busy playing footy.

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                      • ScottH
                        It's Goodes to cheer!!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 23665

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Dirtyburt
                        I doubt it, he will be busy playing footy.
                        boom, boom!!

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