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  • The Big Cat
    On the veteran's list
    • Apr 2006
    • 2356

    #91
    Originally posted by Triple B
    Any clue to what went wrong at Melbourne?
    Not sure. They reckon he's had trouble putting on weight. He's still young and big blokes take time. Look at Hawkins, everyone had him pencilled in as a big reputation dud! I'm surprised Melbourne didn't try Cooky in defence. He went to CHB at times for the Ballarat Rebels and did well. He's a gentle natured sort of a kid and perhaps all the Neeld huff and bluff didn't suit him. His work ethic is unquestioned - he was up before 6.30 every morning either running or in the gym. Plus he did well in his studies. A model citizen.
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    • dimelb
      pr. dim-melb; m not f
      • Jun 2003
      • 6889

      #92
      Originally posted by The Big Cat
      Not sure. They reckon he's had trouble putting on weight. He's still young and big blokes take time. Look at Hawkins, everyone had him pencilled in as a big reputation dud! I'm surprised Melbourne didn't try Cooky in defence. He went to CHB at times for the Ballarat Rebels and did well. He's a gentle natured sort of a kid and perhaps all the Neeld huff and bluff didn't suit him. His work ethic is unquestioned - he was up before 6.30 every morning either running or in the gym. Plus he did well in his studies. A model citizen.
      Sounds as if he might be worth investing a bit more time, could possibly be a quiet achiever.
      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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      • Captain
        Captain of the Side
        • Feb 2004
        • 3602

        #93
        I would delist: Gordon, Meredith, Seaby and Moore. Lamb is lucky not to be included in this list.

        White, TDL and Spangher all stay. Unless we can get a decent trade for any of them.

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        • ugg
          Can you feel it?
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 15970

          #94
          Why would you delist Lamb when he's finally starting to show some form after just two (injury-hampered) seasons?
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          • Captain
            Captain of the Side
            • Feb 2004
            • 3602

            #95
            Originally posted by ugg
            Why would you delist Lamb when he's finally starting to show some form after just two (injury-hampered) seasons?
            Read my post again, I didn't say that we should delist him.

            However given any more injuries combined with the emergence of other players (Cunningham, Mitchell etc), he could well be gone at the end of next year unless he really turns things around.

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            • Triple B
              Formerly 'BBB'
              • Feb 2003
              • 6999

              #96
              Originally posted by The Big Cat
              They reckon he's had trouble putting on weight......
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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                #97
                Despite the low regard that many have on here for Jesse White, I would imagine that he will be on the radar of many clubs. Collingwood is forced to play that dud Dawes because they can't find anyone else that can spell Jolly in the ruck. This ruck-forward role is becoming the most important one on the field, mainly because it's the most difficult to cover.

                Even though Jesse may be a mediocre player, I think he is a very valuable asset to the club. He perfectly fits the mould of the ruck forward. And now that his ruck work seems to have improved a lot in the ressies at least, it would be a big mistake to let him go. If we let both Seaby and White go, we would have a serious depth deficiency in the team that would have to be filled. And you just can't draft some big forward and hope he can step in if Mummy and Pyke are injured. We have a real shot going deep into finals over the next few years and can't leave ourselves exposed to the possibility of ruckmen injuries.

                Regardless of the many chances that White has been given, and the frustration of his lack of progress, there is still some hope that he will find his way and fulfill his potential.

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                • chalbilto
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 1139

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Ludwig
                  Despite the low regard that many have on here for Jesse White, I would imagine that he will be on the radar of many clubs. Collingwood is forced to play that dud Dawes because they can't find anyone else that can spell Jolly in the ruck. This ruck-forward role is becoming the most important one on the field, mainly because it's the most difficult to cover.

                  Even though Jesse may be a mediocre player, I think he is a very valuable asset to the club. He perfectly fits the mould of the ruck forward. And now that his ruck work seems to have improved a lot in the ressies at least, it would be a big mistake to let him go. If we let both Seaby and White go, we would have a serious depth deficiency in the team that would have to be filled. And you just can't draft some big forward and hope he can step in if Mummy and Pyke are injured. We have a real shot going deep into finals over the next few years and can't leave ourselves exposed to the possibility of ruckmen injuries.

                  Regardless of the many chances that White has been given, and the frustration of his lack of progress, there is still some hope that he will find his way and fulfill his potential.
                  It should also be noted that LRT will be 30 years old next year. I think that Jesse should be kept on the list.

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                  • Alan
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 156

                    #99
                    [QUOTE]This ruck-forward role is becoming the most important one on the field, mainly because it's the most difficult to cover. /QUOTE]

                    I believe this to be true and, also as a direct result of the way Natanui plays.

                    To me, there seems to be no point keeping both Seaby and White. A possible trade might be to send Seaby to North in exchange for Majak Daw (the next Natanui). He is very, very raw but built like Adonis and would be a good project ruckman. Jesse then would be first in line for a call up and he may just take his next opportunity and make the most of it.

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                    • Dosser
                      Just wild about Harry
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1833

                      [QUOTE=Alan;589574]
                      This ruck-forward role is becoming the most important one on the field, mainly because it's the most difficult to cover. /QUOTE]

                      I believe this to be true and, also as a direct result of the way Natanui plays.

                      To me, there seems to be no point keeping both Seaby and White. A possible trade might be to send Seaby to North in exchange for Majak Daw (the next Natanui). He is very, very raw but built like Adonis and would be a good project ruckman. Jesse then would be first in line for a call up and he may just take his next opportunity and make the most of it.
                      We would have to get the Norf recruitment staff very drunk first.

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                      • Big Al
                        Veterans List
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 7007

                        Re: Drafting Table

                        Originally posted by chalbilto
                        I think that Jesse should be kept on the list.
                        I agree.

                        Apparently he cuts the oranges for the ressies which is an invaluable service in my view.
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                        • royboy42
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2078

                          [QUOTE=Alan;589574]
                          This ruck-forward role is becoming the most important one on the field, mainly because it's the most difficult to cover. /QUOTE]

                          I believe this to be true and, also as a direct result of the way Natanui plays.

                          To me, there seems to be no point keeping both Seaby and White. A possible trade might be to send Seaby to North in exchange for Majak Daw (the next Natanui). He is very, very raw but built like Adonis and would be a good project ruckman. Jesse then would be first in line for a call up and he may just take his next opportunity and make the most of it.
                          Seabs was knocked back in Adelaide this season for medical reasons..I suspect that may not have gone un noticed by other clubs.

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                          • Captain
                            Captain of the Side
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 3602

                            I still have hopes Jessie will come good. Imagine him and Reid dominating our forward line!

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                            • chalbilto
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 1139

                              Originally posted by Big Al
                              I agree.

                              Apparently he cuts the oranges for the ressies which is an invaluable service in my view.
                              An invaluable string to his bow. Got to have an impressive resume. Can't have any nillie willie cutting the oranges.

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                              • aardvark
                                Veterans List
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 5685

                                Originally posted by chalbilto
                                nillie willie cutting the oranges.
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