Looks like the COL flap isn't going away

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  • ScottH
    It's Goodes to cheer!!
    • Sep 2003
    • 23665

    #61
    Originally posted by Triple B
    Backended his contract. On peanuts this year but big money next year after Buddy pisses off...
    So a "legal" rort??

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    • jono2707
      Goes up to 11
      • Oct 2007
      • 3326

      #62
      Originally posted by ScottH
      How did Hawthorn afford Lake?
      Are you inferring there's something fishy in the Lake?

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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        #63
        Originally posted by jono2707
        Are you inferring there's something fishy in the Lake?
        We know he's not good with liquids.

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        • wolftone57
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2008
          • 5861

          #64
          Originally posted by DamY
          It's true, I live in a very small 2br terrace in Surry Hills, no parking, no aircon, no built ins, very tiny outdoor area taken up by a clothesline and it's just over $600 a week. The estimated value of this house is around $1m and it's a shoebox! My room just fits a queen size bed, a clothes rack and a chest of drawers. Surely there are similarly priced properties in Melbourne, but anecdotally I've had some friends move down to Melbourne and you definitely get more value for money down there. The COLA is obviously to help attract and retain interstate players who'll need it for the additional relocation and setup costs. Gaah
          And that is a cheap place in Surrey Hills. If you are looking at a double story two bed job it would be somewhere between $650 (partially reno'd) and $750 (fully reno'd).

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          • wolftone57
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2008
            • 5861

            #65
            Originally posted by snajik
            I'm staggered that Carlton can be rewarded with players such as Kreuzer, Gibbs, Murphy etc for rorting the salary cap.
            I'm staggered that so many powerhouse Melbourne based clubs get to play so many home and away games at the MCG.
            I'm staggered that so many powerhouse Melbourne based clubs need to travel interstate so infrequently.
            I'm staggered that Essendon and Collingwood have a monopoly on the ANZAC Day fixture.
            I'm staggered that so many powerhouse Melbourne based clubs never have to play Geelong in Geelong.
            I'm staggered that Richmond has had so many top ten draft picks in recent years and only been able to make the finals twice in the past 30 years.
            I'm staggered that various former players of the Hawthorn Football Club still believe they should have won the 2012 Grand Final.
            I'm staggered that the Grand Final must ALWAYS be played on the MCG, the home ground (or as good as) of so many powerhouse Melbourne based clubs.
            I agree with you plus the Victorian clubs are given the bulk of the development fund

            They are propped up when they go broke with no hope of ever being a financially successful club ie; Western Bulldogs, Carlton, Richmond, Melbourne or North. The Saints are getting there again too.

            There should only be 6 Victorian teams the state can no longer support 10. Clubs should be forced to merge, Richmond & Melbourne would be sensible but the two clubs hate each other. Western Bullies & Norf should merge and there is no reason why this could not be successful, they are both working class clubs and voth in the same area and they don't hate each other.

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            • Big Al
              Veterans List
              • Feb 2005
              • 7007

              #66
              Re: Looks like the COL flap isn't going away

              If the reports that Sydney is 14% more expensive to live in are accurate then in real terms Carlton players are paid 4.2% more than their Sydney counterparts. Do I just send the Invoice attn: Chris Judd.?
              ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

              Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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              • The Big Cat
                On the veteran's list
                • Apr 2006
                • 2360

                #67
                Best Swans banner ever came after Carlton has raided us again and took Williams. (It was when the AFL was running that ad campaign around the theme of "I'd like to see that!" The Swan's banner read "Kernahan, Bradley, Motley, Silvani all under the salary cap - I'd like to see that!"

                I think that banner, plus the one by Fitzroy that read "Courted by North, Raped by Brisbane, @@@@@@@*D by the AFL" led to banners having to be pre-OK'd by the AFL.
                Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                • DamY
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 1479

                  #68
                  Looks like the COL flap isn't going away

                  Originally posted by wolftone57
                  I agree with you plus the Victorian clubs are given the bulk of the development fund

                  They are propped up when they go broke with no hope of ever being a financially successful club ie; Western Bulldogs, Carlton, Richmond, Melbourne or North. The Saints are getting there again too.

                  There should only be 6 Victorian teams the state can no longer support 10. Clubs should be forced to merge, Richmond & Melbourne would be sensible but the two clubs hate each other. Western Bullies & Norf should merge and there is no reason why this could not be successful, they are both working class clubs and voth in the same area and they don't hate each other.
                  Yeah all clubs should be able to pay marquee players out of the player injury fund a la Judd from now on, it's only fair! Lol

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                  • ScottH
                    It's Goodes to cheer!!
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 23665

                    #69
                    Cats president backs Sydney Swans' salary cap allowances

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                    • ShockOfHair
                      One Man Out
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 3668

                      #70
                      Thank you Col Carter. About time some neutrals weighed in.

                      "We're not joining calls from other clubs that there be an audit. One of the clubs is saying Sydney should declare what it is paying all of its players to the rest of us I think that's all pretty silly stuff," Carter said.
                      "I don't have a problem with it (allowance) in principle,' he said.

                      "The whole thing was originally designed to reflect the fact that not only was Sydney more expensive, and demonstrably so, but actually also there was a stay-at-home issue when you're trying to create teams with people largely brought from other markets," he said.
                      The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                      • ScottH
                        It's Goodes to cheer!!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 23665

                        #71
                        Swans paid $1.75m more than have-nots

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16786

                          #72
                          Originally posted by ScottH
                          If you believe that graph, the red bit tells you that some combination of Goodes, Jude and Ryno were well paid last year. We had no nominated rookies, so that red area must equate to 50% of the salaries of two of the three (probably Goodes and Jude as they qualified as veterans sooner), or one third of each of the three of their salaries. That's nothing to do with the COLA. The size of the blue bar is not that different to most other clubs (when you take notice of the scale on the y-axis, designed to make the differences look visually larger than they are proportionally).

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                          • ShockOfHair
                            One Man Out
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 3668

                            #73
                            I really think a bit of transparency would help the AFL and the Swans. As Liz says, the chart covers salary cap, veterans and COL without specifying any of them, which makes it close to meaningless.

                            This column by Andrew Ireland makes the case excellently. It's almost worth printing out or bookmarking on your phone just so you can show it to pub bores.
                            The case for the cost of living allowance - SYDNEYSWANS.com.au

                            A major point of contention is the suggestion that we have ?stored? the COLA and used it to recruit players, such as Kurt Tippett. That is simply incorrect.

                            Every player contract at the Sydney Swans stipulates that the COLA must be paid in addition to the agreed contract figure. Every player has a manager, and every one of those managers is aware the Club has the COLA. The COLA is also added to the standard contracts of rookie listed players. Like all Clubs, each contract that is signed is reviewed by the AFL
                            The only other thing, which he hints at and which Colless as talked about, is the agents and players have the COL factored in. So if a player is on 250k at his current club, his (gross) starting price with the Swans is 275k. They see it for what it is - a loading that offsets some of the extra cost of living , not a payrise.
                            The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                            • Doctor
                              Bay 29
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 2757

                              #74
                              The On The Couch panel showed how stupid this whole argument is last night in about 2 minutes. They sarcastically commented that apparently you're not allowed to sign a player if you win a premiership. They then showed the graphic that outlined the salaries the traded and delisted players were on. I had no idea that Seaby and Moore were on as much as they were. Mike Sheehan showed yet again that he is one of the few Melbourne journos who is prepared to look at the bigger picture when it comes to the A in AFL and not be biased.
                              Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                              • ShockOfHair
                                One Man Out
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 3668

                                #75
                                Amazing the difference a few facts make.
                                The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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