Looks like the COL flap isn't going away

[ShockOfHair]

Greg Swann sounds off:

"We are staggered that the premiers can add an $800,000-per-season player (in Tippett) to their list without shedding anyone," Blues chief executive Greg Swann told the Herald Sun.....

"If you win a premiership you are supposed to be under pressure to retain players, not bring in the highest-priced recruit there was last year. They will say they were being clever with the way they used their cap but, whichever way you cut it, to do what they have done puts into question the fairness of the system."

The allowance is 9.8%. According to ABS figures, which the AFL uses as the basis for its calculation, the cost of living in Sydney is 15% above Melbourne (and at least that above Gold Coast and Adelaide).

So if you're a gold-digging player choosing the Swans instead of the Gold Coast solely because of the 10% extra, you really are pretty thick.

[R-1]

Well of course a Carlton president would struggle to understand how a club can have a premiership-winning team and be under the cap.

[R-1]

Also he may have missed the 5 or 6 players we traded/delisted and replaced with draftees, and the Bradshaw contract finally ending. But hey, no-one was shed.

[royboy42]

Well of course a Carlton president would struggle to understand how a club can have a premiership-winning team and be under the cap.

And not just THIS Carlton president, but quite a few of his predecessors!

[Triple B]

Well of course a Carlton president would struggle to understand how a club can have a premiership-winning team and be under the cap.

[Doctor J.]

Greg Swann sounds off:


The allowance is 9.8%. According to ABS figures, which the AFL uses as the basis for its calculation, the cost of living in Sydney is 15% above Melbourne (and at least that above Gold Coast and Adelaide).

So if you're a gold-digging player choosing the Swans instead of the Gold Coast solely because of the 10% extra, you really are pretty thick.

Fancy Carlton having a snipe at another clubs salary cap structure.

Carlton are able to retain and attract players purely because a healthy slice of Judas Judd's salary doesn't get included in the salary cap.

@@@@ off you whinging pricks

[Big Al]

Dear Greg Swann,

I would tell you to shove this inaccurate and jealousy induced rant up your arse but with your head already there I'm not sure how much room there would be.

I hope your tanking, salary cap cheating club remains forever without a flag in the 21st century.

Yours faithfully from the desk of a supporter of the Reigning Premiers.

Big Al

[goswannie14]

Well of course a Carlton president would struggle to understand how a club can have a premiership-winning team and be under the cap.

[707]

Eddie is the biggest whinger about inequlities but no club has a bigger imbalance their way than Collingwood who get a dream draw every year.

Carlton wants to talk about our COL concession, what about the pathetic shonky rejigging of Judd's cardboard contract? A heap of his $ in LAST YEARS salary cap and a heap more in the Injury List concessional payments. FFS could the AFL have bent over and got reamed by Carlton any more than that?
Judd's original cardboad contract was out of line but somehow got the ok from Vladland.

COL should not only be be related to the actual COL in each city but the number of players that have to relocate city to play for you.

Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth clubs are at an advantage because a large proportion of their players don't have to move city or even house to play for them. Sydney, GWS, Brisbane and Gold Coast have the overwhelming majority of their list from outside their city.

Here's the number of home state players on every teams list

Richmond - 29
NM - 28
WCE - 28
WB - 27
Ess - 26
Melb - 23
St.K - 22
Geel - 22
Haw - 21
Carl - 21
Coll - 20
Freo - 17
Port - 17
Adel - 16
GCS - 9
Sydney - 7
GWS - 6
Bris - 4

About time the AFL and the power Melbourne clubs had a look at this as it certainly has an effect on attracting and retaining players.

[DamY]

Looks like the COL flap isn't going away

Eddie is the biggest whinger about inequlities but no club has a bigger imbalance their way than Collingwood who get a dream draw every year.

Carlton wants to talk about our COL concession, what about the pathetic shonky rejigging of Judd's cardboard contract? A heap of his $ in LAST YEARS salary cap and a heap more in the Injury List concessional payments. FFS could the AFL have bent over and got reamed by Carlton any more than that?
Judd's original cardboad contract was out of line but somehow got the ok from Vladland.

COL should not only be be related to the actual COL in each city but the number of players that have to relocate city to play for you.

Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth clubs are at an advantage because a large proportion of their players don't have to move city or even house to play for them. Sydney, GWS, Brisbane and Gold Coast have the overwhelming majority of their list from outside their city.

Here's the number of home state players on every teams list

Richmond - 29
NM - 28
WCE - 28
WB - 27
Ess - 26
Melb - 23
St.K - 22
Geel - 22
Haw - 21
Carl - 21
Coll - 20
Freo - 17
Port - 17
Adel - 16
GCS - 9
Sydney - 7
GWS - 6
Bris - 4

About time the AFL and the power Melbourne clubs had a look at this as it certainly has an effect on attracting and retaining players.

Nice work, also QLD and NSW have the weakest local league to draw talent from. That too should be considered!

[Doctor]

I can respect their right to an opinion, but only if it's based on factually accurate stuff. Carlton's president, and John Ralph are either lying, mischief-making or both. Why don't they run something with it that relates facts along with the ranting to show how much of a goober this bloke is?

[On-Baller]

More whingeing re salary cap,Carlton joins in.

Carlton have now joined with the other great unwashed masses in complaining about Sydneys salary cap allowance,after what theyve done with Judd over the years ie Visy i cant see how they have the nerve to jump on board with this.Maybe its just a tactic to avert attention away from the recent Judd/Visy news.

Personally i was surprised when we got Tippett after winning a flag but if it was within the rules of the AFL for me theres no issue.They are having a go at our club when the AFL makes these rules.I cant wait for the day we lose this extra allowance and still kick all their arses when it comes to recruiting.

Living down south all ive heard for years is oh the afl helped sydney get their flags,and you couldnt do it without the extra money etc etc,the fact is we have the best recruiters and talent scouts by the length of the straight,and yes maybe not so many big name players would come our way but we spot talent thats tailored to our needs better than anyone else,which makes the big clubs very jealous.

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[Dosser]

Carlton have now joined with the other great unwashed masses in complaining about Sydneys salary cap allowance,after what theyve done with Judd over the years ie Visy i cant see how they have the nerve to jump on board with this.Maybe its just a tactic to avert attention away from the recent Judd/Visy news.

Personally i was surprised when we got Tippett after winning a flag but if it was within the rules of the AFL for me theres no issue.They are having a go at our club when the AFL makes these rules.I cant wait for the day we lose this extra allowance and still kick all their arses when it comes to recruiting.

Living down south all ive heard for years is oh the afl helped sydney get their flags,and you couldnt do it without the extra money etc etc,the fact is we have the best recruiters and talent scouts by the length of the straight,and yes maybe not so many big name players would come our way but we spot talent thats tailored to our needs better than anyone else,which makes the big clubs very jealous.

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I wonder if we would be having this problem if we lost the GF by 10 points?

[Dooloo]

I wonder if we would be having this problem if we lost the GF by 10 points?

Wouldn't even rate a mention. A lot os clubs just dont realise that if it hadn't been for the relocation of the Swans, abiet, with very little VFL (AFL) support, there wouldnt be a national competition. But thats irrelievant, because the AFL has been pouring money into us for years to keep us afloat. Or so the story goes. Try telling that to Mike Willesee and Co.

[Swansongster]

Eddie is the biggest whinger about inequlities but no club has a bigger imbalance their way than Collingwood who get a dream draw every year.

Carlton wants to talk about our COL concession, what about the pathetic shonky rejigging of Judd's cardboard contract? A heap of his $ in LAST YEARS salary cap and a heap more in the Injury List concessional payments. FFS could the AFL have bent over and got reamed by Carlton any more than that?
Judd's original cardboad contract was out of line but somehow got the ok from Vladland.

COL should not only be be related to the actual COL in each city but the number of players that have to relocate city to play for you.

Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth clubs are at an advantage because a large proportion of their players don't have to move city or even house to play for them. Sydney, GWS, Brisbane and Gold Coast have the overwhelming majority of their list from outside their city.

Here's the number of home state players on every teams list

Richmond - 29
NM - 28
WCE - 28
WB - 27
Ess - 26
Melb - 23
St.K - 22
Geel - 22
Haw - 21
Carl - 21
Coll - 20
Freo - 17
Port - 17
Adel - 16
GCS - 9
Sydney - 7
GWS - 6
Bris - 4

About time the AFL and the power Melbourne clubs had a look at this as it certainly has an effect on attracting and retaining players.

Excellent data analysis. I thought the disparity between Freo and WCE was interesting.