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  • ScottH
    It's Goodes to cheer!!
    • Sep 2003
    • 23665
    #1

    Most Improved.

    Just comparing the AVERAGE stats from last year to the AVERAGE stats for this year for each player.
    These are the top players who have improved in the most categories. (in order)
    Categories are the same as in the STATS listed on RWO.

    Daniel Hannebery (by mile)
    Andrejs Everitt
    Sam Reid
    Luke Parker
    Jarrad McVeigh
    Nick Malceski


    At the other end of the spectrum. The players who have dropped off in the most categories. (in order as well)
    Craig Bird (Excused, due to limited game time)
    Lewis Jetta
    Lewis Roberts-Thomson (misssed half a game)
    Martin Mattner
    Jude Bolton (New role as a more permanent fwd)
    Rhyce Shaw (injured)
    Tony Armstrong


    Makes interesting reading.

    These guys are getting significantly more game time. (again in order)
    Luke Parker
    Nick Malceski
    Mike Pyke
    Daniel Hannebery
    Shane Mumford
    Tags: improved
    • ShockOfHair
      One Man Out
      • Dec 2007
      • 3668
      #2
      Thanks for doing that Scott.
      The name that jumps out is Sam Reid. He's supposed to be out of form. I guess it reflects that his workrate around the ground has lifted. With his pair of hands he should be clunking a lot more marks.
      The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9365
          #3
          Originally posted by ShockOfHair
          Thanks for doing that Scott.
          The name that jumps out is Sam Reid. He's supposed to be out of form. I guess it reflects that his workrate around the ground has lifted. With his pair of hands he should be clunking a lot more marks.
          Probably more of a reflection of how poor his form was for most of last year. He's coming off a low base.

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            • ScottH
              It's Goodes to cheer!!
              • Sep 2003
              • 23665
              #4
              Originally posted by ShockOfHair
              Thanks for doing that Scott.
              The name that jumps out is Sam Reid. He's supposed to be out of form. I guess it reflects that his workrate around the ground has lifted. With his pair of hands he should be clunking a lot more marks.
              I was surprised at that myself

              Originally posted by Ludwig
              Probably more of a reflection of how poor his form was for most of last year. He's coming off a low base.
              Glass half empty.
              Bu oh so true!!

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16844
                  #5
                  Longmire, in his airport press conference, comments on Reid and states that they are happy with his work rate and his pressure acts. It's just that he's not holding his marks.

                  While our forward line woes might cause the most anguish on here - and it's certainly the area where there is most apparent scope for improvement - we've been putting the score on the board OK, albeit that most of the goals are actually being converted by midfielders. Even against Geelong, we scored 16 goals, which would be enough to win most games. It was just that the defence, "team defence" was a long way short of where it needed to be. Insufficient pressure from the midfield, some mistakes from a couple of inexperienced defenders, and a couple of unfavourable umpiring calls, were the reasons we lost the game.

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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665
                      #6
                      Originally posted by liz
                      Longmire, in his airport press conference, comments on Reid and states that they are happy with his work rate and his pressure acts. It's just that he's not holding his marks.

                      While our forward line woes might cause the most anguish on here - and it's certainly the area where there is most apparent scope for improvement - we've been putting the score on the board OK, albeit that most of the goals are actually being converted by midfielders. Even against Geelong, we scored 16 goals, which would be enough to win most games. It was just that the defence, "team defence" was a long way short of where it needed to be. Insufficient pressure from the midfield, some mistakes from a couple of inexperienced defenders, and a couple of unfavourable umpiring calls, were the reasons we lost the game.
                      and some experienced defenders as well.
                      Melco made a couple of clangers, even though he generelly had a good game, and Reg is just reg when it comes to hitting a target.

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                        • Matimbo
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 334
                          #7
                          Agree with the "surprised" comments about Reid. On reflection, I do acknowledge his work rate has improved. But the dropped marks are just so noticeable. Also, I have this impression of regular handball clangers by him, a few of which have resulted in turnaround goals that really hurt us. Do the stats show up this?
                          CIA Agent to Policeman: "Have you ever had anti-terrorist training?"
                          Policeman: "Yes, I was married once."

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                            • ScottH
                              It's Goodes to cheer!!
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 23665
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Matimbo
                              Agree with the "surprised" comments about Reid. On reflection, I do acknowledge his work rate has improved. But the dropped marks are just so noticeable. Also, I have this impression of regular handball clangers by him, a few of which have resulted in turnaround goals that really hurt us. Do the stats show up this?
                              Yes.
                              Clangers are up for Sammy.

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                                • alt_mattr
                                  On the Rookie List
                                  • Mar 2013
                                  • 169
                                  #9
                                  I am not sure what qualifies as a clanger, but according to footywire our top clanger producers are Mumford, Parker, O'Keefe, Bolton and Hannebery. I would take those guys on their current form any day of the week!

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                                    • satchmopugdog
                                      Bandicoots ears
                                      • Apr 2004
                                      • 3691
                                      #10
                                      As some of you know , I'm not a big one for statistics.
                                      The most improved by a mile, for me a highly visual person, is Mike Pyke. His body language and presence has gone through the roof. He is clunking marks. He is positioning waaaaay better. He is using space better. He is creating space better. His handballing is slowly improving and he is a competent kick for goal. Cringeworthy factor...gone!!!!
                                      "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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                                        • satchmopugdog
                                          Bandicoots ears
                                          • Apr 2004
                                          • 3691
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Matimbo
                                          Agree with the "surprised" comments about Reid. On reflection, I do acknowledge his work rate has improved. But the dropped marks are just so noticeable. Also, I have this impression of regular handball clangers by him, a few of which have resulted in turnaround goals that really hurt us. Do the stats show up this?
                                          I feel these supposed clangers are more than made up for by his extraordinary vision and his ability to see teammates and get the ball to them that other players would never have seen let alone executed successfully. I like the way he thinks 1-2 plays ahead and positions himself for that. a bit of the Goodes/Bartel/Pendlebury factor there simmering away about to blossom hopefully.
                                          "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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                                            • Triple B
                                              Formerly 'BBB'
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 6999
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by alt_mattr
                                              I am not sure what qualifies as a clanger, but according to footywire our top clanger producers are Mumford, Parker, O'Keefe, Bolton and Hannebery. I would take those guys on their current form any day of the week!
                                              As a rule, in pure numbers terms the blokes who get it 30 times a game in traffic will make more clangers then a guy who gets it on the outside a half dozen times a game.
                                              Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                                                • swantastic
                                                  Veterans List
                                                  • Jan 2006
                                                  • 7275
                                                  #13
                                                  good work scotty.....sam reid is 1 one trick pony he needs to add more to his game....parker and hanners have been stand outs for me
                                                  Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                                                    • ScottH
                                                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                      • 23665
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by alt_mattr
                                                      I am not sure what qualifies as a clanger, but according to footywire our top clanger producers are Mumford, Parker, O'Keefe, Bolton and Hannebery. I would take those guys on their current form any day of the week!
                                                      My list is not of the most, but the difference since last season.
                                                      Thus those guys may be at the top of the list for clangers, but are possibly on par from last year.

                                                      Originally posted by Triple B
                                                      As a rule, in pure numbers terms the blokes who get it 30 times a game in traffic will make more clangers then a guy who gets it on the outside a half dozen times a game.
                                                      Exactly. High possession usually equates to high Clangers.

                                                      Last edited by ScottH; 23 April 2013, 12:37 PM.

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                                                        • magic.merkin
                                                          Senior Player
                                                          • Jul 2008
                                                          • 1199
                                                          #15
                                                          Pyke is our number 1 ruck on form visually for mine.

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