End of year trades involving Swans

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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16773

    #16
    Originally posted by 09183305
    Buddy is a restricted free agent - he can't just go where he pleases
    No, but he can if the Hawks can't, or won't match the financial offer of the rival club that he nominates. Which they won't, if it is GWS.

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    • 0918330512
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2011
      • 1654

      #17
      Originally posted by liz
      No, but he can if the Hawks can't, or won't match the financial offer of the rival club that he nominates. Which they won't, if it is GWS.
      Don't disagree ... was just saying he won't be a free agent.

      A free agent he could go anywhere for any amount ... no matter how little the payment.
      Restricted free agent, he has to out-price himself so that the original club can't afford him, so it can be in the best interest of the new club to trade, so that player payment won't become a bidding war, blowing out the salary cap
      Last edited by 0918330512; 13 July 2013, 04:43 PM.

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16773

        #18
        Originally posted by 09183305
        Don't disagree ... was just saying he won't be a free agent.

        A free agent he could go anywhere for any amount ... no matter how little the payment.
        Restricted free agent, he has to out-price himself so that the original club can't afford him, so it can be in the best interest of the new club to trade, so that player payment won't become a bidding war, blowing out the salary cap
        But Buddy would almost certainly go to GWS only if it were for a money offer too good to refuse. So the bidding war side of things becomes a bit irrelevant.

        In any case, with GWS almost certain to have the first pick in the PSD, they could just use that pick - just as they could use that pick if they wanted Mumford and he wanted to leave us (and he's not a free agent of any description).
        Last edited by liz; 13 July 2013, 05:05 PM.

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        • ernie koala
          Senior Player
          • May 2007
          • 3251

          #19
          Originally posted by 09183305
          Buddy is a restricted free agent - he can't just go where he pleases

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          Me Koala, you quite like the "high high in the saddle" phrase - or variants thereof - me thinks ... surely CureTheSane is just as entitled to their opinion (of not wanting premature trade talk) as anyone else has of wanting to talk about it?
          & my horse is just a Shetland pony, so you'll need to pick a new berating phrase for me
          If it comes to GWS it amounts to the same thing...but yes I stand corrected..he's a restricted free agent.

          So I've used a phrase twice...great pick up.

          As far as I'm concerned, anybody is entitled to talk about any Swans stuff they want...But having a go at a thread because you don't like it's content, in this case trade talk, is ridiculous.
          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            #20
            Given all the trade talk in the general media, it certainly seems a timely and legitimate topic for RWO.

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            • Cardinal
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2008
              • 932

              #21
              Originally posted by swans_premiers
              Kruezer, jack watts, david swallow,scully,patton,whitfield are the last 6 number 1's.

              Wow...a bunch of superstars there:-/

              Number 1, 17 year old is not worth that much. Just like a business wouldn't recruit a high school graduate on $100,000's

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              Any 17 year old who's 200cm 102kg should be dominating.

              If he's going to be a "once in a lifetime forward" he should be kicking bags in the VFL every week, without exception.
              A little harsh. I would not underestimate Patton (knee and all) and Scully will be in my fantasy team next year. A few bigger bodies around him and he will come of age.

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              • Rob-bloods
                What a year 2005 SSFC/CFC
                • Aug 2003
                • 931

                #22
                Mummy will not get 4 years from us his body will not hold up that long.
                Sports do not build character. They reveal it....Heywood Broun

                I always turn to the sports pages first, which record people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures......Earl Warren

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                • sfan
                  Warming the Bench
                  • May 2003
                  • 487

                  #23
                  Sam Reid I think could become an all Australian CHB. Think his kicking or goal will always trouble him. He did well in the GF last year when he went back. Has the height and pace to be a damaging running half back like Roos was. Given that Boyd would be handy. If Mummy wants to go I would consider a package deal for him to GWS. GWS need a ruck man badly. If he wants to stay happy with that as well.

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                  • aardvark
                    Veterans List
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 5685

                    #24
                    Since when did RWO topics need to be legitimate? I must have missed that rule somewhere.

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                    • CureTheSane
                      Carpe Noctem
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 5032

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ernie koala
                      Your riding nice and high in the saddle.....Everybody knows this is just speculation.
                      I saw the Lone Ranger the other day - inspiring stuff

                      Originally posted by ernie koala
                      If that rubs you up the wrong way...move on to another thread.
                      It doesn't rub me the wrong way, but if you look at the bottom nine of your original post you wrote "Others thoughts?"
                      I gave mine without any ill will or "saddle taking" even though you fully expected that (Now before I get shouted down...)
                      In fact I wouldn't even say I got on the horse.
                      Only when you answered my post did I feel the need to elaborate.
                      Even then, I would say that I hadn't even climbed up on the horse - probably more like walking beside it holding the reigns
                      The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                      • RogueSwan
                        McVeigh for Brownlow
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 4602

                        #26
                        Originally posted by CureTheSane
                        I saw the Lone Ranger the other day - inspiring stuff ...
                        I must have watched a different film, I was tempted to leave a number of times, but I thought "it might just get better".
                        Back on Topic: CTS, you were quite reasonable.
                        "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                        • swansrob
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2009
                          • 1265

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Rod_
                          Here is a long shot..

                          Trade Tippett to GWS for No 1, and Keep Mummy, etc. (We may also get a good player thrown in as part of the deal..)

                          This will free up our TPP $ to keep Joey, Parker, Mitchell etc..

                          Rod_
                          Retirements over the next few years will free up plenty enough to keep those guys once their current contracts are up.

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                          • CureTheSane
                            Carpe Noctem
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 5032

                            #28
                            Originally posted by RogueSwan
                            I must have watched a different film, I was tempted to leave a number of times, but I thought "it might just get better".
                            Back on Topic: CTS, you were quite reasonable.
                            Most people hate it.
                            Most of the ones who do compare it to the old TV series.

                            But hey, I saw Last Stand, the recent Arnie movie and thought it was pretty good so my credibility possibly isn't worth much
                            The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                            • Bloodthirsty
                              On the Rookie List
                              • May 2013
                              • 607

                              #29
                              Originally posted by CureTheSane
                              Most people hate it.
                              Most of the ones who do compare it to the old TV series.

                              But hey, I saw Last Stand, the recent Arnie movie and thought it was pretty good so my credibility possibly isn't worth much
                              I thought The Last Stand was pretty good - very entertaining. That's all you hope for when you watch an Arnie movie. Arnie plays his role effectively, like a Swans player. Would love to see Arnie in a Swans geurnsey.
                              "Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the Swans win pretty."

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                              • billyboob
                                On the Rookie List
                                • May 2012
                                • 220

                                #30
                                Originally posted by CureTheSane
                                Most people hate it.
                                Most of the ones who do compare it to the old TV series.

                                But hey, I saw Last Stand, the recent Arnie movie and thought it was pretty good so my credibility possibly isn't worth much
                                Originally posted by Bloodthirsty
                                I thought The Last Stand was pretty good - very entertaining. That's all you hope for when you watch an Arnie movie. Arnie plays his role effectively, like a Swans player. Would love to see Arnie in a Swans geurnsey.
                                If you're going to derail a thread, at least get your facts straight. The Last Stand wasn't an 'Arnie' movie. It was a Kim Jee-Woon movie. I cannot recommend his other films highly enough. Particularly The Good, The Bad And The Weird as well as A Tale Of Two Sisters and A Bittersweet Life. It a testament to his film making skills, that his first Hollywood feature was entertaining despite haing Arnine and Johnny Knoxville in it.

                                I don't reckon we'll trade Mummy.

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