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  • Auntie.Gerald
    Veterans List
    • Oct 2009
    • 6474

    #76
    BTW the reason that North Melb in my opinion (who are as exciting to watch as any team when they are on) dont make the top 4 is predominantly because they back themself to execute week in week out briliant free flowing football - high risk high reward !!

    the reality is that this works against half the comp and it struggles against the other half of the comp.........Longmire has always instilled in his players and us members / viewers the value of being able to handle momentum swings and the two easiest places to do that are in the either of the 50m arcs

    North push ahead of their man when in attack and in large numbers which is what makes them look so brilliant in attack when free flowing

    The opposite also is true ie on turnovers and pressure........when they dont execute they are miles behind their opposite number and look dreadful on a bad day.

    This lack of understanding by Scotty keeps them where they are because it is simply to difficult to execute week in week out - this style of football is high risk !

    Our style of football and kick long down the wings and forward 50m to contests (to a a Tippett) so our lads can push forward in numbers is by far the safest way to keep in a game - especially against the better teams. Yes we have added the sling shot brilliantly and did alot last year and most of the year until the recent games where teams have taken us head on with contested footy and flooded our red zone ie in and around Tippett.

    field position is no 1 in my opinion for our lads so that we can move to these areas in numbers and apply brutal pressure on the ball and make goals. To have consistent field position you need to have clear lower pressure areas to focus the football towards - like we do
    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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    • Meg
      Go Swannies!
      Site Admin
      • Aug 2011
      • 4828

      #77
      Can anyone please tell me what that 50 metre penalty against Ted Richards, that led to a 'gimme' goal, was for? To me Ted's attempt to spoil Riewoldt's mark, although too late to be successful, looked no different than every other unsuccessful attempt made by defenders. Did I miss something? I really hate 50 metre penalties - they nearly always seem to be too harsh a punishment for the supposed 'crime'. And when I see one given when I can't see a reason I get very agitated!

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      • CJK
        Human
        • Apr 2006
        • 2170

        #78
        Late tackle I think.

        Was a woeful decision, up there with the Mal one from earlier in the season
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        • monopoly19
          Senior Player
          • Aug 2003
          • 1098

          #79
          Originally posted by Meg
          Can anyone please tell me what that 50 metre penalty against Ted Richards, that led to a 'gimme' goal, was for? To me Ted's attempt to spoil Riewoldt's mark, although too late to be successful, looked no different than every other unsuccessful attempt made by defenders. Did I miss something? I really hate 50 metre penalties - they nearly always seem to be too harsh a punishment for the supposed 'crime'. And when I see one given when I can't see a reason I get very agitated!
          To me it looked like Teddy wasn't in the contest and gave Riewoldt a shove in the back after he'd clearly marked the ball. I thought it was a fair 50.

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          • stellation
            scott names the planets
            • Sep 2003
            • 9718

            #80
            Originally posted by monopoly19
            To me it looked like Teddy wasn't in the contest and gave Riewoldt a shove in the back after he'd clearly marked the ball. I thought it was a fair 50.
            I believe you're correct, and I agree it was a fair 50. You don't see them paid all the time but it did look like a slightly late whack.
            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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            • Swansongster
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2008
              • 1264

              #81
              Originally posted by Meg
              Can anyone please tell me what that 50 metre penalty against Ted Richards, that led to a 'gimme' goal, was for? To me Ted's attempt to spoil Riewoldt's mark, although too late to be successful, looked no different than every other unsuccessful attempt made by defenders. Did I miss something? I really hate 50 metre penalties - they nearly always seem to be too harsh a punishment for the supposed 'crime'. And when I see one given when I can't see a reason I get very agitated!
              I thought the 50 was there to be paid myself. It was late, in the back and Riewoldt went to ground fairly heavily.

              Consistency is the frustration.

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              • Meg
                Go Swannies!
                Site Admin
                • Aug 2011
                • 4828

                #82
                Originally posted by Swansongster
                I thought the 50 was there to be paid myself. It was late, in the back and Riewoldt went to ground fairly heavily.

                Consistency is the frustration.
                Ok I agree that Ted gave him a late push in the back as he followed through from his attempt to spoil. Though to me it didn't look any different to what you see happening on numerous occasions in every match without penalty. So I also agree about the consistency complaint. It still seems to me to be a very harsh penalty (free kick right in front of the goals) for a small misdemeanour.

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                • jono2707
                  Goes up to 11
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 3326

                  #83
                  Pushing a player over after they have completed a mark is seen as a time-wasting tactic so is often penalised with a 50m. I thought yesterday's 50m call was fair and I said at the time that Teddy was a bit silly and he didn't need to push him...

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                  • Meg
                    Go Swannies!
                    Site Admin
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 4828

                    #84
                    Originally posted by jono2707
                    Pushing a player over after they have completed a mark is seen as a time-wasting tactic so is often penalised with a 50m. I thought yesterday's 50m call was fair and I said at the time that Teddy was a bit silly and he didn't need to push him...
                    Yes I can see that it is comparable to the rationale for a 50 metre penalty for throwing the ball away instead of handing it back - as per the penalty against Mitchell which gave us a vital McVeigh goal in the GF. So I am happy to concede. (Still it was fun joining in the booing in the crowd!)

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6474

                      #85
                      if Ted was chest into Nicks back and smashed him onto the ground while going for the spoil..... there would have been no free kick - even though the result would have been the same ie Nick would have been on the ground like a cockroach with his legs in the air !

                      amazing !

                      same time delay if not more so with that impact........just that because there was separation the umps deem that Teddy with his little tiny handsy push made Nick fall that heavily to ground and therefore time wasting !

                      it was a great professional free by Nick
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11328

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Go Swannies
                        Jude looked like he'd brought the wrong hands and feet - at least his marking and goal kicking suggested that. But if he was going to have an off game that wasn't a bad time to have it.

                        Benny, the flying Benny - what was that about? He still has that desperation for a Premiership Medallion but it's causing him to rush and miss. That's why I think it was so important that he had to have a shot at goal he didn't want to take - and that he took his time, went back and slotted it home. Come finals, his pressure and desperation will be welcome - and he'll be fully back up to speed after his three weeks off.
                        Boltons game was ok. McGlynn's problem is his disposal. That one in the first quarter when he burst clear to neatly put it on the chest of a Saints defender sums him up. Almost every game he plays he misses an open goal on the run, by a mile, then shakes the head. No problem with his work rate.
                        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                        • giant
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 4731

                          #87
                          Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
                          Popularity of both subs is at polar opposites.

                          Tippett to bag 5. Swans to win by 51 pts.
                          Living up to your monicker...

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                          Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                          if Ted was chest into Nicks back and smashed him onto the ground while going for the spoil..... there would have been no free kick - even though the result would have been the same ie Nick would have been on the ground like a cockroach with his legs in the air !

                          amazing !

                          same time delay if not more so with that impact........just that because there was separation the umps deem that Teddy with his little tiny handsy push made Nick fall that heavily to ground and therefore time wasting !

                          it was a great professional free by Nick
                          Poor old Teddy has been on the receiving end of three of the worst decisions of the year in the last two weeks - needs to work on his umpire obsequity.

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                          Originally posted by stellation
                          I believe you're correct, and I agree it was a fair 50. You don't see them paid all the time but it did look like a slightly late whack.
                          I reckon I saw roughly 20-30 worse impact on the bloke taking the mark this weekend alone where no 50m was played. Was an absolute shocker.

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                          • Melbournehammer
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2007
                            • 1815

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Nico
                            Boltons game was ok. McGlynn's problem is his disposal. That one in the first quarter when he burst clear to neatly put it on the chest of a Saints defender sums him up. Almost every game he plays he misses an open goal on the run, by a mile, then shakes the head. No problem with his work rate.
                            If it was perfect he'd still be at the hawks. He did fine on the weekend but everyone needs to step up this week several notches

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                            • AnnieH
                              RWOs Black Sheep
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 11332

                              #89
                              We only have to win every game between now and the end of September.
                              Not that hard.
                              The chain still says that we're going back to back winners.

                              The first quarter was a bit iffy.
                              After that it was a walk in the park.
                              So good to see little Ranga running around again. He's a walking billboard for perseverance and hard work. He had a ball. We missed giving him a mexican wave when he walked by us in the Brewongle.
                              Tipoff plays better for us than he ever did at the crows. He promised that he'll get me a coleman next year.
                              Jessie!!!! Did anyone see Jessie run? Run, Jessie. Run. The one hander should have been a mark of the year contender. I'm glad he's getting a go; and I'm even more glad that he's developed into something good (freakin' finally).
                              I love Joshy. He can do no wrong.
                              I saw Hanners at the end of the game and said that I'd wish he'd hurry up and have a @@@@ game so that I can tell him off again. He laughed and said that I can keep waiting. (So happy about that.)
                              I'm really impressed with our kids. Really, really, really impressed.
                              It's amazing how they've kept the ship sailing.
                              How many have we still got out ... 6 - 7?? I'm a bit upset that the footy world doesn't pay our kids more homage.
                              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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