Swans v hawks game day thread

[Swansinger]

Some obvious mistakes,but it'd be churlish to criticise too much after such a cracking game.
I did not expect it to be that close.
Not as good as last year's R23 similarly narrow loss at home , but still a fine match.
I can't help but wonder if KT would have made the difference , given that we had nine less marks I50.
Decent debut from young "Ronnie" , too - he has a bit of poise and looks promising.

[Mel]

Really?

I love Birdy and not suggesting for a minute he be dropped, but I thought it was the worst game I've seen from him for ages. He fumbled it most of the night and when he managed to grab it he handballed or kicked it straight to a Hawk.

Yep. We are big Tweety fans in our family and we thought he had a very ordinary game. Plenty of possessions last night, but a lot of them were clangers. Not his night.

[Bloodthirsty]

Hope Morton remains as sub for next week, liked his late come in role with an exciting goal.

I'd love to see Morton remain in the team for the finals. Finals specialist?

You would have to assume that Jetta will be sub.

[Wazza]

I don't know why you are knocking Everitt he played pretty well in fact. I thought the main problem tonight was when Mal got the bloody basll and just bombed it again and again. Macca panicked on several occasions too, especially that shot for goal when he had space and just panicked. He was even being given the green light by a team-mate.

The ones who panicked again tonight were the experienced players. A bit annoying as they are supposed to be the calming influence on the young blokes. About the young blokes led by the pied piper from Balmain, Kizza. They were super tonight, Luke Parker is a really very serious mid. Young Shane Biggs in his first game kept Luke Beuist to 2.1 and had 18 possies against Bruist's 11. Bruist had 5 score assists though but the kid played really well on him. Bird played on a wing tonight and wasn't moved when Burgoine got loose and started hurting us, funny that, he nullified Burgione in the GF when he came on the ball. I think horse will do that in the final.

Finally, if we kick to Jesse like we did in the first half he will kick a bag of goals. The problem was we had no alternative when they dropped players into the spot. With Tippett we have a two forward option. Tippett taking the big grabs and leading one way and Jesse leading the other way. I thought Jesse beat Gibson and Lake tonight, it was our delivery that killed him in the second half, dreadful is what I'd call it. The rucks beat Lake too.

I agree mate Everitt was really good I had him down for 4 score assist --- but for Hawks. He cannot handle the defensive pressure again missed 3 tackles that led directly to hawk goals
- he is a marsh-mellow.

Cheers

waz

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I'd love to see Morton remain in the team for the finals. Finals specialist?

You would have to assume that Jetta will be sub.

I agree with Jetta sub if he gets through the reserves today - could have an impact if fit enough. I like Morton as well but with so many to come back in who do you leave out? Who would be in your starting fwd line? I haven't really thought about it yet.

Cheers

Waz

[bloodbrother]

really glad we didn't win this game , have thought for a long time that playing these guys next week is our best ticket str8t thru to the prelim ...even down on troops if they play audit football they can still take this flag...waiting to see us do the hawks by three goals next week...gonna be awesome..

[wolftone57]

I agree mate Everitt was really good I had him down for 4 score assist --- but for Hawks. He cannot handle the defensive pressure again missed 3 tackles that led directly to hawk goals
- he is a marsh-mellow.

Cheers

waz

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I agree with Jetta sub if he gets through the reserves today - could have an impact if fit enough. I like Morton as well but with so many to come back in who do you leave out? Who would be in your starting fwd line? I haven't really thought about it yet.

Cheers

Waz

White was really good but in the second half we kicked to the advantage of the Hawks backs every time we kicked long. Jesse, Pykie & Mummy brought the ball down on many occasions only to see it taken out by Hawks. They set two to three behind the pack one to two in front including Hodge and then have the loose players out the back and we didn't pick them up at all in the second half. Next week we have to man up out the back. Even Pykie was having trouble with the big bombs. They put Luke hodge in the gap to shut down Jesse's leads, what we need to do is make Hodge accountable and man him up then use that player to make him pick them up. That will leave space again for the lead, either Tip, Jesse, Bolts or another forward.

to tell the truth I was quite shocked by our game tonight, I thought on recent form we would get flogged. For those who think Jesse is going the Freo think again. I think Shane Biggs has just earned a spot on the list, he was very good in the first half and just good in the second. He didn't have first game jitters, he just did the job, which shows a lot. If he can be as composed as this all the time under the huge pressure of the Hawks then he will be a great finals player because that is what finals is all about, pressure. I'd keep him in next week as he is not only composed he also gave us really good run and laid some very good tackles and was very good at keeping them under pressure all the time. I bet his mum and dad will be pleased, lovely people.

[ScottH]

Really?

I love Birdy and not suggesting for a minute he be dropped, but I thought it was the worst game I've seen from him for ages. He fumbled it most of the night and when he managed to grab it he handballed or kicked it straight to a Hawk.

Bird did have the fumbles a few times but overall i thought his game was pretty good.

BJ was all over the place in the first qtr, but then seemed to go missing for the rest of the night.
Rohan is getting better each game. How excited was he to kick a goal??

Mitchell was given far too much space i the 2nd half nearly always by himself.
We really need to watch the buddy/Roughie from the taps in front of goal. They were identical and obviously a set play. ( i guess we won't need to worry about buddy next week).

I thought the last qytr came down to our inexperienced guys starting to falter in the heat of the battle, and their experienced guys stepping up a notch.

Hanners Smith and Tippett back will be a bonus. As will Jetta if he can get on the park.

[Primmy]

Yep. We are big Tweety fans in our family and we thought he had a very ordinary game. Plenty of possessions last night, but a lot of them were clangers. Not his night.

We were just discussing this in a round robin discussion. He has become somewhat up and down, and this was a down. Hope he gets his mojo together sometime soon.

[stellation]

We really need to watch the buddy/Roughie from the taps in front of goal. They were identical and obviously a set play. ( i guess we won't need to worry about buddy next week).

We were directly behind Buddy for his one, it was actually pretty wonderful to watch. Definitely a set play- he started a fair bit off the contest then a couple of Hawthorn players curled past between Buddy and the ruck contest, taking their Swans defenders with them and leaving an open run (and there was space the other side of the stoppage, so I'm guessing something happened there, too). Credit to Dane, he had the nous to actually recognise it and try to block Buddy's run at the ball up but wasn't able to stop him.

I have to admit, watching that play I was left thinking "he's probably worth the money for GWS".

[Meg]

I think Shane Biggs has just earned a spot on the list, he was very good in the first half and just good in the second. He didn't have first game jitters, he just did the job, which shows a lot. If he can be as composed as this all the time under the huge pressure of the Hawks then he will be a great finals player because that is what finals is all about, pressure. I'd keep him in next week as he is not only composed he also gave us really good run and laid some very good tackles and was very good at keeping them under pressure all the time. I bet his mum and dad will be pleased, lovely people.[/QUOTE]

And he has the attributes to take over Jude's title of the best looking player in the AFL!

[Primmy]

Bird did have the fumbles a few times but overall i thought his game was pretty good.

BJ was all over the place in the first qtr, but then seemed to go missing for the rest of the night.
Rohan is getting better each game. How excited was he to kick a goal??

Mitchell was given far too much space i the 2nd half nearly always by himself.
We really need to watch the buddy/Roughie from the taps in front of goal. They were identical and obviously a set play. ( i guess we won't need to worry about buddy next week).

I thought the last qytr came down to our inexperienced guys starting to falter in the heat of the battle, and their experienced guys stepping up a notch.

Hanners Smith and Tippett back will be a bonus. As will Jetta if he can get on the park.

Shiggsy running in gumboots by the end, which is hardly surprising.
Didn't mind BJ's game, he was minding gaps and in and under (maybe why he was missed).
Mitch has hardly played for the last couple of months and I was dead surprised to see him out there. He practiced goal kicking including the round the bend from the 50m line time and time again. Must have been there for 30 minutes or so - they were out there at about 6.30, lots and lots of goal kicking from the boys before the game. Lots. Davo could probably still play to be honest.

Luke is a gem. He knows he is Judes heir apparent. Same attitude. Tight in and under.
Had a lot of time for Drey's efforts. He is becoming more and more assured, and although still inclined to hot potatoe the ball at times, he generally works hard to mop up the mess. Could be slotted in as a swingman a la LRT. He can kick a goal from a long way out when needed.
Dear Jesse. Repaying the despairing fans at last. Love him to bits.
Red Rohan, the Rooster crowed! What fun to watch him in action and I do not even vaguely think to sanction his exhuberance. Its what we need. A sense of fun in the game.
Looks like Mummy has no intention of going anywhere. Played like his life was on the line.
Macca and Kizz make an odd couple as far as co-captains go, but they read each other.
Harry was not massively evident, but when he made himself known, he was a bit of a force. Like him. Possibilities endless.

Shiggsy. I think we will keep him. I don't know what Jared Crouch is teaching these kids, but its working. Not one newby has gone into the game not knowing what to do or playing with less than natural assurance. I think we should keep Jared too.

Dear Ted - hall of famer than young man. Keep Dane too.

We lost a key position player a couple of hours before the game, must have had to restructure like mad, could have been disasterous, so I must say that I am not exactly disappointed. It could have been a whole lot worse.

The one thing I noted most of all was the fact that not only the senior players but all of the new kids on the block worked their arses off. They ran the game out to the very end. No slacking, always with the mantra set by Kirky "Never give up on us Ken!" (said that in a shocked voice to a friend of mine). The kids ran tired eventually, and that is hardly surprising. But here's the thing. The bones of this team are strong. We have good structure for the future, and I am confident that in a year or two or three we will have another granny in the cupboard. Not this year. But soon. We have got talent as well as application and some fantastic coaches.

Important to remember. Some of these kids are 18/19 and 20, and some playing in their first year and a goodly number off the rookie list for pete's sake! They have a way to go, but the base structure set in the ressies is strong and is the same as in seniors. All in all, I am a proud Swannie Mumma.

[aardvark]

I have to admit, watching that play I was left thinking "he's probably worth the money for GWS".

Straight swap for Mummy??

[Primmy]

Straight swap for Mummy??

Shame on you aaarrrr


Then again, just imagine this. Kurt Tippett v Buddy Franklin ..... cross town rivalry to savour for years.......

[aardvark]

Shame on you aaarrrr


Then again, just imagine this. Kurt Tippett v Buddy Franklin ..... cross town rivalry to savour for years.......

Sorry Prims......just a thought.

[Nico]

I thought both Brandon Jack and Harry Cunnigham were out of their depth. Brandon got caught a bit and he seems to just blaze away when kicking. Seems to have the goods but next year beckons. Harry to me was standing off the game and appeared reluctant to get into the clinches. Very low stats for both.Biggs on the other hand in his first game was fearless and happy to mix it with the best in the comp. Biggs seems to have a good sized tank and could make a handy midfielder.

Jed Lamb is a far better option than BJ or Harry this year.