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  • Matt80
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2013
    • 1802

    No worries Dosser! I think Barry Hall would have the better of a mediation session in the ring!

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    • chalbilto
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2007
      • 1139

      Originally posted by Matt80
      Come on Dosser, this is a serious discussion! We don't want Paul feeling bitter towards the club like a Kevin Bartlett did towards Richmond for all those years!

      Someone needs to mediate this situation!
      Agree. Roos was an integral part of our success as was Colless. I wouldn't like to see the Bartlett scenario. Let's hope common sense prevails. Everyone makes mistakes. Our culture is built on the no dickheads policy.

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      • desredandwhite
        Click!
        • Jan 2003
        • 2498

        Originally posted by MightyBloods
        I don't agree with not letting an employee leave for a more senior role at another club. It also wont foster the best harmony internally if employees feel they are held to their contracts should better opportunities arise (talking admin/coaching staff). A strong stand by the club but I don't agree with it. I feel the decision was made so that Roos doesn't get his way. Wrong motive.
        Hmm.. without knowing the full story I'd be inclined to agree with this. An article I read this morning implies that Dew made first contact - in which case I wouldn't stand in his way - why would you hang on to someone who doesn't want to be there?

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        • dimelb
          pr. dim-melb; m not f
          • Jun 2003
          • 6889

          Picking up on earlier comments, I don't think it would be too much of a climbdown for Richard to apologise for going public instead of taking it up with Paul privately. I'm sure we all regret things said in the heat of the moment. In private, Colless can be as hostile as he likes and Roos needs to acknowledge that the reaction is understandable.
          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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          • ShockOfHair
            One Man Out
            • Dec 2007
            • 3668

            The only way you can really judge is to know exactly who made which approach to whom and when, what prior commitments had the club made to them and vice versa. In the absence of that, it's hard to really care about this storm in a teacup.
            The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Sounds like a the 'Clash of the Protocols' to me.

              Under normal circumstances it would be proper for the Swans to allow Dew to apply for a better position. On the other hand, when you are legend of a club, you shouldn't even consider taking personnel that you know your former employer view highly. Roos should not be considering Dew for the job, even if he deserves it. He has to expect the sort of reaction he received. Former employers don't like being raided.

              As for the Perris situation, I don't think Roos should be advising any Swans' academy player to consider not player for the Swans given his former position, for which he was paid very well.

              Roos has always played the cool and cagey character that has helped sustain his lofty status. I don't think he's played this one very well. He is a highly respected football personality and a very rich man, on his way to become a lot richer. There are 16 other clubs to plunder. He didn't have to choose the one where he made his legacy.

              He's managed to play the Melbourne coaching situation so well that it got to the point where every pundit was saying he was the one and only saviour, extorting the AFL to bankroll an outrageous salary to coach a bankrupt club. I can't imagine that other coaches would be too pleased about that, nor the clubs that have to pick up the tab.

              Perhaps, like James Hird, he became intoxicated by his own publicity.

              I haven't lost respect for Roos, but don't think he's played this one well. He could have kept the pigeons from crapping on stature.

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              • ugg
                Can you feel it?
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 15971

                Given our season finished on Saturday, is it likely the wires were crossed and that Dew was refused permission to interview until after the season was over. Although I note reports have said Tudor interviewed for the Lions job.
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                • Dan
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 338

                  I understand Dew leaving for greater opportunities but what is the point of a contract if it is not upheld? It's the same with players too. Unless they have a clause of a mutual agreement to leave they should stick it out.
                  I See It But I Don't Believe It!!!!

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                  • 111431
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 698

                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    Sounds like a the 'Clash of the Protocols' to me.

                    Under normal circumstances it would be proper for the Swans to allow Dew to apply for a better position. On the other hand, when you are legend of a club, you shouldn't even consider taking personnel that you know your former employer view highly. Roos should not be considering Dew for the job, even if he deserves it. He has to expect the sort of reaction he received. Former employers don't like being raided.

                    As for the Perris situation, I don't think Roos should be advising any Swans' academy player to consider not player for the Swans given his former position, for which he was paid very well.

                    Roos has always played the cool and cagey character that has helped sustain his lofty status. I don't think he's played this one very well. He is a highly respected football personality and a very rich man, on his way to become a lot richer. There are 16 other clubs to plunder. He didn't have to choose the one where he made his legacy.

                    He's managed to play the Melbourne coaching situation so well that it got to the point where every pundit was saying he was the one and only saviour, extorting the AFL to bankroll an outrageous salary to coach a bankrupt club. I can't imagine that other coaches would be too pleased about that, nor the clubs that have to pick up the tab.

                    Perhaps, like James Hird, he became intoxicated by his own publicity.

                    I haven't lost respect for Roos, but don't think he's played this one well. He could have kept the pigeons from crapping on stature.
                    Agreed - maybe the refusal on Dew is because he is to be the next annointed one

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                    • Dosser
                      Just wild about Harry
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1833

                      SEN today said that Stone has gone to Melbourne with Roos. About to be announced. This would explain why we are saying 'hands off' regarding Dew.

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                      • Matt80
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 1802

                        I think what prospective Swans people considering a move to Melbourne should consider that all optimism in that club is being driven by Peter Jackson and Paul Roos who are both brilliant operators!

                        The key is Peter Jackson. He really needs to be at Melbourne for at least 10 years like Colless and Andrew Ireland to build a sustainable culture!

                        If you lost Jackson and Roos within two to three years, they would be back at square one!

                        Sydney has had a great culture for over a decade and can continue to thrive, after key personnel leave!

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                        • stellation
                          scott names the planets
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 9721

                          Originally posted by dimelb
                          Well Stella, that really lightened the mood!


                          Lord only knows what was going on with that whole post!
                          I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                          We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                          • Xie Shan
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2929

                            Originally posted by Matt80
                            Sydney has had a great culture for over a decade and can continue to thrive, after key personnel leave!
                            I think so, but you can certainly understand the club not wanting to see a few people go at once, it's a tough one to cover.

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                            • aardvark
                              Veterans List
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 5685

                              Kennelly has told Roosy he's not interested and will be staying in Sydney.

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                              • ugg
                                Can you feel it?
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 15971

                                Does Kennelly even work for the Swans? I thought he was an AIS coach and radio commentator.
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