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  • ernie koala
    Senior Player
    • May 2007
    • 3251

    Originally posted by jono2707
    Over 2 years, the Hawks have made 2 x GFs and won 1. We only made 1 which we won. Therefore they could probably claim to be the best team over the 2 year period, which I think is what Mike meant. I'm ok with that - we are still 2012 premiers.
    No, I think he meant "they were clearly the best team for the past 2 years"...And he's not alone, it's a view now held across the board .... and it pisses me off...

    What can I do....I know, I'm going to start a thread about it!
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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    • Reggi
      On the Rookie List
      • Jan 2003
      • 2718

      Neil Cordy reports $7m over five years is our offer
      You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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      • R-1
        Senior Player
        • Aug 2005
        • 1042

        Jeeeesus

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        • sharp9
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 2508

          I think that it is patently obvious that Hawthorn were the best team of 2012....they weren't the best team on GF day and they weren't the premiers but I think it is churlish to deny this. Kangaroos were not the best team of 1999, Adelaide were not the best team of 1997 or 1998....Hawthorne were not the best team of 2008.....the list goes on and that, for me is the one good thing to come out of Saturday. As a supporter of the AFL in general it is NICE (for a change) for the Premiers to also be clearly the best team of the year and clearly the best team on the day.

          $1.4 per year for 5 years for Buddy?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Holy freaking bajoombas! Must be seriously backended to play into Goodesey, O'Keefey and Teddy retiring
          "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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          • annew
            Senior Player
            • Mar 2006
            • 2164

            Originally posted by Reggi
            Neil Cordy reports $7m over five years is our offer
            OMFG - Does this mean it is official, Melbourne will go into meltdown if he comes here. Long way off GWS offer so is it possible it will actually happen?

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            • Matt80
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Sep 2013
              • 1802

              Just read the Neil Cordy article!

              Amazing turn of events if the Swans can get Franklin!

              I think the lifestyle benefits of the Eastern Sydney Swans could trump Kevin Sheedy's West of the Anzac Bridge team. It's a clear choice between Breakfast Point and Bondi Beach for Buddy!

              People were upset about how Kevin Sheedy branded the Sydney Swans and the GWS Giants at the start of the year! Don't be upset anymore Swans Supporters!

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              • sharp9
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 2508

                White for Montagna.....need for need
                Talking shop

                - - - Updated - - -

                Or White for Dal Santo :-)
                "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                • Swansinger
                  Senior Player
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1099

                  Originally posted by R-1
                  Jeeeesus
                  Naah - He'd go to our cross-town rivals.

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                  • top40
                    Regular in the Side
                    • May 2007
                    • 933

                    Originally posted by sharp9
                    I think that it is patently obvious that Hawthorn were the best team of 2012....they weren't the best team on GF day and they weren't the premiers but I think it is churlish to deny this. Kangaroos were not the best team of 1999, Adelaide were not the best team of 1997 or 1998....Hawthorne were not the best team of 2008.....the list goes on and that, for me is the one good thing to come out of Saturday. As a supporter of the AFL in general it is NICE (for a change) for the Premiers to also be clearly the best team of the year and clearly the best team on the day.

                    $1.4 per year for 5 years for Buddy?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Holy freaking bajoombas! Must be seriously backended to play into Goodesey, O'Keefey and Teddy retiring
                    The best team of any year is the team who wins the Flag. Full stop.

                    If however we closely examine Sydney v Hawthorn in 2012, the three games the played each other in clearly show the Swans to be the better team:

                    Round 5 Tasmania. Swans win by 39 points at what then a graveyard for visiting teams.

                    Round 22 SCG. A classic clash of the Titans of Season 2012. A very even contest. The Hawks ultimately won, notwithstanding two controversial fourth quarter umpiring decisions: the free kick against O'Keefe in front of goal for Puopola to kick a sitter, (too high for tackling around the waist!!!); and the 50 metre the Swans should have got for Burgoyne throwing away the ball. If Sydney had won that game they would have won the Minor Premiership.

                    Grand Final: close, but it is universally acknowledged that, even allowing their missed set shots, Hawthorn was not the better side.

                    And:
                    1. Sydney comfortably beat Adelaide away from home in the Qualifying Final. Hawthorn just got over the line at home against the same team in the Preliminary.

                    2. Sydney was able to beat Geelong, Hawthorn wasn't.

                    3. Sydney had the best defence in the competition, far greater than Hawthorn's.

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                    • Captain
                      Captain of the Side
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 3602

                      Would be absolutely amazing to get Buddy.

                      Makes sense that the Swans suit him over GWS.

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                      • Primmy
                        Proud Tragic Swan
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 5970

                        Makes sense to me!

                        We've got the midfield covered;
                        Lose Jesse to....and gain a good backman.
                        Lose Mummy to whoever.....Mike and Kurt take care of business with LRT as swingman waiting for Neismith to finish cooking.
                        Gain Buddy to work with Kurt down the pointy end. Membry is a bit away, but not that far. That makes an awful lot of talls up front.
                        So, where to put Sam......not so good at directing traffic a la Goodsey, so I wonder if he would work as a CHB.

                        This is intriguing.....who do we moneyball at this point. We have retired backman, middleman and forward, and delisted a tall untried, plus a forward/ruck and a ruck.

                        We have got a couple of nifty movers on the boil, and I think they would be mad to fritter Perris and Lloyd. X is a long term keeper, and you don't come across specialist backmen at his age very often. They all want to be in the engine room.

                        So I reckon we moneyball a backman. Whose available? Shaw Jnr?

                        Talk about a tale of the Brothers. That would make three sets in the team.

                        Must be like unravelling a fancy knit angora jumper without dropping a stitch
                        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          If we get buddy, you can lock in that reid will be a defender long term.

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                          • DLBIA14
                            On the Rookie List
                            • May 2010
                            • 673

                            Is it smart going down this road with Buddy? Somewhere along the line those big money contracts will hurt us not to mention the intense pressure that will be on the AFL to remove our cost-of-living allowance. I would rather we kept Mummy, look to introduce some key backs through the draft/trade period and really keep that nest egg for someone who would better suit our needs. Our forward line would look ridiculous in the small SCG with both Tippett and Franklin. The question for me is where is Sam Reid in all of this? Does he want to leave? Are we shifting him down back?

                            A part of me thinks the Tele has made @@@@ up once again, but what's Cordy's access like? Normally our club is water tight.

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                            • Cressakel2
                              Pushing for Selection
                              • May 2012
                              • 62

                              The Buddy to Swans deal was done the week after last years GF win. Before even GWS came into the picture. Hence why Clarkson went over to Vegas to confront Franklin 10 days after the GF.

                              I've been told the figure is closer to $1.1m-1.2m a season than $1.4m.

                              To get Buddy we'll need to trade Mummy and pick up 4-5 kids or elevate rookies such as Rampe, B Jack, X Richards & Lloyd.

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                              • stellation
                                scott names the planets
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 9723

                                Originally posted by Captain
                                Would be absolutely amazing to get Buddy.
                                I'd love it, I'd have no issue with the rest of the competition hating us.
                                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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