Lance Franklin to become a Swan

[SwansBloke]

Dermy echoing what some here have said http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/der...1226730940537:

"If the Swans are a competitor (for Franklin), it makes me a little bit happy," GWS forwards coach Brereton told Fox Sports News on Tuesday.

"I think it's actually an irresponsible decision towards the Swans.

"If you've got (ex-Adelaide key forward) Kurt Tippett and Lance Franklin both in the same team taking up 25 per cent of your salary cap, you've only 75 per cent to pay the 36 other players.

"I can't see how you can maintain and keep the list in shape to make it to the top four year in and year out."

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Dermy echoing what some here have said http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/dermott-brereton-not-sure-about-sydney-swans-decision-to-recruit-lance-franklin/story-fnfll94y-1226730940537:

"If the Swans are a competitor (for Franklin), it makes me a little bit happy," GWS forwards coach Brereton told Fox Sports News on Tuesday.

"I think it's actually an irresponsible decision towards the Swans.

"If you've got (ex-Adelaide key forward) Kurt Tippett and Lance Franklin both in the same team taking up 25 per cent of your salary cap, you've only 75 per cent to pay the 36 other players.

"I can't see how you can maintain and keep the list in shape to make it to the top four year in and year out."

[Ludwig]

For those thinking that 1.1 mil a year over 10 years is crazy, I can guarantee that Buddy will bring much more than that to the club over the period of his contract. Andrew Ireland is nobody's fool.

As for the salary cap: There will be increases in the total cap for all teams moving forward, so this kind of payment will be far more common in a few years. There are already similar annual payments made to Judd, Ablett and Scully, so what's all the fuss about. Certainly Buddy is in this category. Furthermore, let's say Franklin breaks down after 5 years and is forced to retire due to injuries. What they will do is cancel the remaining part of his player contract and give him a new contract for the remaining years as a coach or something like that, so the cost will out of the cap.

If the AFL approve the contract they will not be able to take away the COLA for the next 10 years, at least for the portion that applies to Franklin. If there is an adjustment it will be gradual and will start some time in the future.

Now that the Swans will have their forward line sealed for the next 5 years, and the midfield is looking good and deep, we can limit the focus on not getting caught short in the backline. When you can focus on one area of the ground for long term development, it makes things a lot easier. I am sure there will be a backup of sorts to cover for Mummy.

Obviously our management knew there would be a lot of fallout concerning this deal, which is why I think the AFL and the Hawks management have been made aware of this for some time and we have received their tacit approval at worst. If Mummy goes to the Hawks, that will be a sign of a pre-arranged swap. If Reid goes as well, you can lock it in.

[MightyBloods]

and further:

The Swans consulted the leadership group late last year about the Franklin possibility. They gave it the OK. McVeigh and more so Goodesy have been in regular contact with Buddy whenever he visited Sydney throughout the year. The July catch up between Goodesy, Micky O and Buddy was the sealer to make it happen. The outside world thought it was just a meeting to discuss the Irish indigenous tour. Seriously, where were our recruitment and leadership staff educated....CIA? FBI? Another serious impressive coup!

[Ludwig]

Well, at least the debate about who we need more, Mummy or Jesse, is done and dusted.

[R-1]

and further:

The Swans consulted the leadership group late last year about the Franklin possibility. They gave it the OK. McVeigh and more so Goodesy have been in regular contact with Buddy whenever he visited Sydney throughout the year. The July catch up between Goodesy, Micky O and Buddy was the sealer to make it happen. The outside world thought it was just a meeting to discuss the Irish indigenous tour. Seriously, where were our recruitment and leadership staff educated....CIA? FBI? Another serious impressive coup!

Where'd you read/hear this?

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and further:

The Swans consulted the leadership group late last year about the Franklin possibility. They gave it the OK. McVeigh and more so Goodesy have been in regular contact with Buddy whenever he visited Sydney throughout the year. The July catch up between Goodesy, Micky O and Buddy was the sealer to make it happen. The outside world thought it was just a meeting to discuss the Irish indigenous tour. Seriously, where were our recruitment and leadership staff educated....CIA? FBI? Another serious impressive coup!

Where'd you read/hear this?

[swans]

FB: Heath Shaw, Grundy Smith
HB: Johnson. Richards Rampe
C: Franklin Hannebery Jetta
HF: Rohan. Reid Goodes
FF: O'Keefe Tippett membrey
FOLL: Kennedy Pyke Jack

INT: Towers Mitchell Parker McVeigh

EMG: Cunningham Lamb

McVeigh can plays anywhere so i have him on the bench for first few minutes of the game.

Membrey is kid is a gun and we hope will be the big mover for 2014.

This team would be a nice team for a rematch with freo next year.

[On-Baller]

Ireland just told 360 Goodes and leadership group didnt know until monday this week, and the 9 year 10million offer is legit. The club was approached by Pickering after we beat hawks in GF.

[Swannette]

Andrew Ireland on afl 360 just said Goodes did not know about the deal when he denied knowledge last week. So no fibbing it seems. Longmire apparently told the leadership group yesterday who were fully supportive. Only about 7 or 8 people knew and it's been on the boil for 12 months since Pickering came knocking saying Franklin wanted to b at the Swans.

[Matt80]

My 2014 Team

B Johnson Richards Smith
H.B Malceski Grundy Rampe
C Jetta K.Jack Rohan
H.F Parker Reid Mcvigh
F Goodes Tippett B.Jack
Foll Pyke Kennedy Franklin
Inter Bird, Mitchell, ROK Sub - Cunningham

- Franklin to play midfield, surging into space
- Gone for pace Franklin, Jack Brothers, Rohan, Jetta and Cunningham

[Big Al]

The best 22 without Franklin is a beast of a football team. Add Franklin and the team takes on a scary scary look.

One thing Franklin will do is get the Membership register humming and the turnstiles ticking over very very briskly.

[MightyBloods]

[QUOTE=R-1;626190]Where'd you read/hear this?

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A conversation I had today with a very prominent ex-Swan premiership player who would know.

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[QUOTE=R-1;626190]Where'd you read/hear this?

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A conversation I had today with a very prominent ex-Swan premiership player who would know.

[dimelb]

9 years means we're planning to pay him post retirement. Essentially deferring payments like in an NHL megacontract. We've guaranteed him a retirement fund to minimise our cap hit now. We will have done a risk analysis modelling expected career length, cap rises and future liabilities and contact requirements for other player.

I think it's smart in the context of an ever increasing salary cap. As the cap increases he's going to take a smaller portion each year with his 1.1m and then when he retires the last few years will pay out over twice as long, reducing the cap hit further.

This practice is considered beneficial enough that the NBA brought in a maximum contract length of five years.

We've just been the first to try it here. Out in front again.

This makes sense to me. When his playing time runs out, we pay him off at reduced rates on the never-never, perhaps in another capacity. Very smart work. I just hope the planners were as smart in figuring out how to minimise other issues, but if Buddy is as serious about this as he seems to be, perhaps we will be getting a mature player in more than one sense. I hope so.

[Bloodthirsty]

Just imagine if longmire had said to us 18 months ago....

"Ill win you a flag and sign buddy and tippet before the end of next year"

I'd say, "Whatchya smokin there, Horsie?"

[DLBIA14]

This is either revolutionary, game changing genius from two of the smartest operators in the AFL (Ireland and Beatson) or a dead set ball up. Wow, wow, wow. I still can't comprehend the absolute audaciousness of our club. It's nothing short of ruthless ambition. It would have been carefully planned out, meticulously assessed and kept within the smallest of circles to go this far without a leak.

The only intriguing part is who else will be leaving and what the AFL will think about the contractual components holding this all together.

And here I thought we were going to have a relatively quiet pre-season...

[Auntie.Gerald]

only the finest

!!!!!!

man oh man.........im on hols and only just catching up !!!

The Swans are seriously fortunate in timing with both Kurt and Bud but they have built a culture a brand and style of combative play that is uncompromising and the whole package including being in this great city with some of the best city beaches in the world is simply............compelling......... every day of the week !