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  • Mug Punter
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    • Nov 2009
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    Mumford, Sam Reid and Lamb for #1 Draft Pick?

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    • MightyBloods
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      • Feb 2012
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      I would test the waters with GWS although we're not in their good books at the moment
      Offer Mumford, Grundy and our first pick for No 1 pick. They are seeking a ruckman and a key defender. If not good enough, well replace Grundy with one of our midfielders...Bird? Everitt?

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      • Ludwig
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        • Apr 2007
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        If Franklin went to Freo, everyone would be okay with it. He went home. He wants to be with his mate Wellingham. Whatever.

        But there's such a hatred of Sydney coming out of the old Melbourne establishment. They want a national competition, but they're such a parochial lot. You'd think that Buddy had been abducted by Somalia War Lords the way they talk.

        Just wait. Mick Malthouse won't complain about signing a free agent like Daisy Thomas. And Eddie will take his compo pick, no problem. But if we sign a star player, it's an outrage.

        If only there was a no dickhead policy for Melbourne journos.

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        • Mug Punter
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          Originally posted by MightyBloods
          I would test the waters with GWS although we're not in their good books at the moment
          Offer Mumford, Grundy and our first pick for No 1 pick. They are seeking a ruckman and a key defender. If not good enough, well replace Grundy with one of our midfielders...Bird? Everitt?
          Probably best to leave it for a few days

          No way they'd bite at that I feel as Grundy not worth much trade wise. We'd need to give up something significant and I reckon Reid would need to be in the mix plus Mummy and maybe even our first pick.

          They desperately need some depth. They could probably trade our first pick (14) to Collingwood for Heath Shaw which would be decent business for them and us.

          They could then use either their second pick (9) for a topline key defender and suddenly their team is looking a lot more solid...

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          • Ludwig
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            • Apr 2007
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            Originally posted by Mug Punter
            Mumford, Sam Reid and Lamb for #1 Draft Pick?
            There's no place to put Tom Boyd with Tippett and Franklin. A better deal for the 3 would be GWS's picks 9, 21 and Josh Bruce or Kristian Jaksch.

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            • MightyBloods
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              • Feb 2012
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              Originally posted by Ludwig
              If Franklin went to Freo, everyone would be okay with it. He went home. He wants to be with his mate Wellingham. Whatever.

              But there's such a hatred of Sydney coming out of the old Melbourne establishment. They want a national competition, but they're such a parochial lot. You'd think that Buddy had been abducted by Somalia War Lords the way they talk.

              Just wait. Mick Malthouse won't complain about signing a free agent like Daisy Thomas. And Eddie will take his compo pick, no problem. But if we sign a star player, it's an outrage.

              If only there was a no dickhead policy for Melbourne journos.
              There is a no dickhead policy for Melbourne journos. They just had they're end of season dinner. No one turned up!

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              • Mug Punter
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                Originally posted by Ludwig
                There's no place to put Tom Boyd with Tippett and Franklin. A better deal for the 3 would be GWS's picks 9, 21 and Josh Bruce or Kristian Jaksch.
                Then there is no space for Tippett, Franklin and Reid either??

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                • Ludwig
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                  • Apr 2007
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                  Originally posted by Mug Punter
                  Then there is no space for Tippett, Franklin and Reid either??
                  Agree.

                  Reid will either end up in the backline or be traded. I think it is likely that either Reid or Grundy will be another casualty of the Franklin deal. I would rather keep Reid, but we may not be able to afford his big contract. Hard to say as we don't have access to the numbers.

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                  • Mug Punter
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                    I'd like us to make a play for Boyd as he is apparently an absolute gun in the making. Plus he'd be cheap in the first year or so

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                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    Agree.

                    Reid will either end up in the backline or be traded. I think it is likely that either Reid or Grundy will be another casualty of the Franklin deal. I would rather keep Reid, but we may not be able to afford his big contract. Hard to say as we don't have access to the numbers.
                    He'd be on a decent whack. The Franklin deal blows the trade landscape up....

                    The permutations and combinations do my head in but Reid will have some serious trade currency. Plus the bundled value of Jesse and Mummy. I think Sam is on about $400K a year from memory of what was reported when he signed his 5 year deal

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                    • Ludwig
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                      • Apr 2007
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                      Originally posted by Mug Punter
                      I'd like us to make a play for Boyd as he is apparently an absolute gun in the making.
                      Tippett, Franklin AND the number one draft pick. Do you want to give Eddie Maguire a heart attack?

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                      • MightyBloods
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                        • Feb 2012
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                        Check the Wazza Capper tweet and pic with him holding the cup with Buddy...priceless!
                        Warwick Capper (WarwickCapper39) on Twitter

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                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        Tippett, Franklin AND the number one draft pick. Do you want to give Eddie Maguire a heart attack?
                        haha....boy, I'd like to see that! Not Eddie's heart attack...the look on his face when he hears the news!

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                        • Ludwig
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                          I see our strategy as exchanging a few high salary players for high draft picks that come in at a relatively low salary. The ones most like are White, Mumford, Reid and Lamb. I think we can save around a million a year by replacing these with 1st year players. There has to be some rationalising to get Buddy.

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                          • Mug Punter
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                            Originally posted by Ludwig
                            Tippett, Franklin AND the number one draft pick. Do you want to give Eddie Maguire a heart attack?


                            As I said this free agency deal just blows the landscape open.

                            Despite us getting Buddy the fact remains that they need to trade for some serious talent and I believe we are probably one of few clubs prepared to give them what they need (i.e. a key forward in lieu of Boyd and a ruckman plus a decent draft pick).

                            They, in turn can give us a dream draft pick who we can develop into a star of the future, he is meant to be something else that kid. Plus we get some salary cap relief for a season or two

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                            • liz
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                              • Jan 2003
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                              I have a sneaking feeling Reid may be one of the players Ireland alluded to as possibly being traded out. You have to take most rumours with a pinch of salt but there was suggestion a few months back that he was homesick. There are several clubs desperate for a young (but not too young) key forward and the competition might mean he was worth more on the trade table than his actual output suggests he should be (notwithstanding his glimpses of potential). Carlton, WB and St Kilda are three clubs who ought to be in the market for a key forward, though he's possibly too similar type of player to Liam Jones to be top target for the Dogs.

                              I'd love to see him stay and maybe even move to defence, but it's hard to see room for him on the forward line. Unless of course, both Buddy and Goodsey effectively play as the tallest wing duo in history.

                              If Sammy does end up leaving, I hope it's because he genuinely wants to (and maybe it was this that tipped the Swans over into deciding they could put this deal together) rather than him getting forced out while not really wanting to go.

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                              • Mug Punter
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                                Originally posted by Ludwig
                                I see our strategy as exchanging a few high salary players for high draft picks that come in at a relatively low salary. The ones most like are White, Mumford, Reid and Lamb. I think we can save around a million a year by replacing these with 1st year players. There has to be some rationalising to get Buddy.
                                That we can't afford White and Mumford is clear. Suspect you may be correct in respect of the others too.

                                I think it is totally plausible for those four to be aggregated into two first round draft picks somewhere.

                                Buddy plus three first round draft picks would be good business as well, though I'd still go for Boyd if we can get the number 1 pick

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