Swans 2013 Draft Strategy

[aardvark]

If the rumour is true $1mill over 3 years from GWS...can you blame him?
I wonder now with salary cap space we up our offer to him.

I think we have other players just as good with just as much potential that will now get a chance..........at half the price.

[Blood Tunnel]

If the rumour is true $1mill over 3 years from GWS...can you blame him?
I wonder now with salary cap space we up our offer to him.

No!
That sends the wrong message to others that may be in a similar position next year & the year after.
We take the hit now & save in the future.

[Meg]

I think we have other players just as good with just as much potential that will now get a chance..........at half the price.

And if we were to pay Lamb anything like the amount supposedly offered by GWS that would surely lead to a great deal of dissatisfaction amongst these other young players. Better to let him go. As has been said, good luck to him.

[Auntie.Gerald]

fire up ladies and gents

ive just poured the first glass of wine while making dinner at home with the Family !!!!!!

i best pop off now but seriously this squad we hav assembled for 2014 is outrageous !!!


outrageous !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mug Punter]

If the rumour is true $1mill over 3 years from GWS...can you blame him?
I wonder now with salary cap space we up our offer to him.

If this squad is the best they can do with an extra $1M in the kitty then they are in a pretty dire position.

If that number is correct then they are paying such massive overs it is not funny. Their massive front ended contracts to the likes of Scully, Davis and their other B grade players will also come to an end in a couple of years creating issues. Plus cannot wait for the likes of Patton, Cameron and Boyd to get pinched in 3-4 years too.

Yes they will be more competitive but from what I see of their squad they are miles behind GWS in terms of development and talk of them winning a flag this decade are very very bullish.

I would not offer him a cracker, use that money to lock in players that want to play for us.

[Matt80]

Spot on. I think young Jed may have got ahead of himself. There's more to this story IMO.

Jed Lamb had skills and potential but in my opinion he was not strong, quick or hard enough. The Giants like that type of player, but its not the sort of player the Swans will build its list on. The Swans list is built on players like Rohan, Parker, Goodes, K. Jack, Smith (hard, quick and strong) - ROK, Kennedy, Hanas, Bird (hard and strong) - Mglynn (quick and hard).

You would never see Jed Lamb throw himself at a contest like a Ben McGlynn. The Giants young players won't teach him how to do that.

He had the option of leaning this at the Swans and it would have made him a better more competitive player with a longer career. Now he will get more money over the next three years but will not become the sort of player the Swans could teach him to be!

[liz]

Jed Lamb had skills and potential but in my opinion he was not strong, quick or hard enough. The Giants like that type of player, but its not the sort of player the Swans will build its list on. The Swans list is built on players like Rohan, Parker, Goodes, K. Jack, Smith (hard, quick and strong) - ROK, Kennedy, Hanas, Bird (hard and strong) - Mglynn (quick and hard).

You would never see Jed Lamb throw himself at a contest like a Ben McGlynn. The Giants young players won't teach him how to do that.

He had the option of leaning this at the Swans and it would have made him a better more competitive player with a longer career. Now he will get more money over the next three years but will not become the sort of player the Swans could teach him to be!

I think that's a little unfair on Lamb. After a slow start to his career, he's shown this year that he has AFL-level attributes and is now a reasonable chance to carve out a senior career for himself. There's no reason to believe he can't develop his game at the Giants, as he might had he stayed at the Swans.

His situation was that he was down the pecking order at the Swans, who have a strong (and relatively young) midfield group including several who, like Jed, aren't over endowed with pace. He was offered significantly more money and the promise of more senior opportunities elsewhere. He would have been mad not to take this. Another two seasons played predominantly for the Swans' NEAFL side might have meant his career was over before it really got going. I am a little surprised the Giants rate him as they do, given the number of similarly aged midfield types they have, but that's the Giants' call.

The only disappointment from Swans' fans point of view (and, I suspect, the club's) is that he left it so late in the trade period to inform the club of his wishes. That severely limited the Swans ability to recover some value for him at the trade table, given his choice of destination and the Mumford situation. But for all we know, the Giants might only have come through with their big offer late in the piece.

[Dosser]

A couple of weeks ago he was the example of the new talent that will take the Swans to a golden era. Now he is obviously a hack who deserves to be at another club. Settle petals. If I was that age and another club whispered sweet nothings in my ear and told me how much they loved me and even proved it by opening their cheque book, I would be lured as well.

Lamb never got a game in 2012 while everyone else did - that must have hurt, and GWS were watching from the bushes. They obviously drove up beside him while he was walking home and offered him inducements to come back to Skoda stadium with them. It is a story that is in the headlines too often these days. His realisation will occur when they finally open the door and he walks into the room with such high hopes, only to find a sea of sad faces turn towards him - faces of other young men who once had the same hopes and dreams but now stare at him with the life gone from their eyes. His days ahead will be bleak. The promises he cherish will never materialise and his task masters cruel and unforgiving. He, like others, may try to escape each October when even the horrors of Collingwood seem like a refuge, but he is now at the mercy of men who will treat him only as a source of income.

Don't think badly of our Lambie. He is young and he has made a mistake. If anything we should grieve for him and let him know that he is forgiven and the door is always open for him. One day he may be back and he will need our help, not our rebukes.

[erica]

Yeah but Lamb is now effectively out of a job. He didn't accept the Swans' offer and the trade to GWS did not eventuate. If he wants to continue to play in the AFL, he will have to enter the draft and he may end up with another club (not necessarily of his choice). IMO he took a gamble and it hasn't paid off (yet).

[Dosser]

Lamb took a gambol?

[erica]

Lamb took a gambol?

[Matt80]

I have been critical of Lamb, but I can see the other side of the argument . In any evident the amazing support he has given to Garry Rohan during his recovery shows he is a young man of great character!

[lwjoyner]

Lets forget about the past and whether or not we were gazumped by GWs. Here are my thoughts on who we draft. Like I said on the thread whispers etc I have used the writing of the AFL .com site Big footy phantom draft "experts" (I question this as if they were experts they would not statrt until all the postions were finalised.) I have also used Ludwiks postion on the whispers threads for ideas. By the way I have not seen any of the boys play. At #15 I agree with Ludwik that we should look for a bigger bodied mid (inside and outside) that may be available and from my analysis of my reading that could be Blake Acres followed by perhaps Cripps or Cutler. But I would differ here from Ludwik if Acres were gone I would probably go for Gardiner an All Aust U18 for the last two carnivals. At # 32 if we have Acres I would go for Gardiner if available or Joel Tippert (if not picked up by Crows at 22) his camp numbers are sensational and he has played senior footy for a number of years. I would pick either one as well at next pick #35 if both a still available as we need to start looking at replacements for TR and HG who I think struggled for many games last season. At our next pick of 44 I would go for some back up for rucks and I would pick Ben Brown ex Tasmanian who played for Werribee in VFL last year and looked good on TV. Not sure we will use any more picks on new boys and instead use them on upgrades. I still also think we may need another future half back flanker just in case AJ and RS don't come up. I am not sure Biggs is a man for this position.

[Matt80]

Does anyone think we need to get a back up experienced ruckman in the preseason draft? If so, who do you think would be available? It looks like Jolly could be signing with St Kilda!

[R-1]

We'll grab someone if necessary. There's always stopgap rucks around.