Lamb has gone to GWS

[ShockOfHair]

I agree with all this plus the swans have had a year to think and prepare for the buddy trade so I am sure they know what they are doing.

True enough, but I'm still going to be the first here to say 'Faustian bargain'.

[Doctor]

I agree with all this plus the swans have had a year to think and prepare for the buddy trade so I am sure they know what they are doing.

True dat. Even if the Lamb roll has fleeced us, his loss isn't insurmountable and actually creates a small amount of cap space in case we decide to keep Everitt and/or Armstrong, a mature-age player becomes available or some other unexpected change to the list potentially occurs.

[GordonS]

ok, so considering we were willing to give him a contract, that means we've got a bit more space in the cap to work with. does that potentially mean we can go for a player for player trade with gws instead of loading up on more draft picks we wont end up using in the draft?? if so, who do people reckon is a likely trade candidate? or do we think the swans may be loading up on some mid range draft picks to broker a trade for a player from another club?

[Zlatorog]

It looks to me like a case of a disgruntled player. Although we don't have all the facts, but it's fair to assume that his progress within the club probably didn't meet his (or theirs) expectations. I would even agree with some posters here suggesting that his expectations might have been too high (being a first draft pick). If he believes he'll get better opportunities at GWS I think it's the best for him to leave Sydney Swans.

[MightyBloods]

ok, so considering we were willing to give him a contract, that means we've got a bit more space in the cap to work with. does that potentially mean we can go for a player for player trade with gws instead of loading up on more draft picks we wont end up using in the draft?? if so, who do people reckon is a likely trade candidate? or do we think the swans may be loading up on some mid range draft picks to broker a trade for a player from another club?

GWS hold the upper hand with first selection in the PSD. I'd try and package Everitt, Armstrong and Lamb to move us up the draft order or to target a young GWS key defender (ie 'Hungry' Jaksch, Corr, Plowman).

[lwjoyner]

maybe we should try to get 22 for a Lamb and everitt swap and give them back the 39 we got for mummy. Would then suit us all. After all the 44 for jesse is not much worse than 39 but 22 would make a difference of who would be available. you could even throw in ta.

[jono2707]

I agree with all this plus the swans have had a year to think and prepare for the buddy trade so I am sure they know what they are doing.

I'm not so sure. Although we have put an outstanding team on the park on the last couple of years, 2009 was the last time we really nailed our drafting and trading. Most of our National Draft picks since then have been underwhelming (Parker and AJ from 2010 being exceptions). Tom Mitchell fell into our lap as a F/S so that was more good fortune than anything. We've done a bit better on the Rookie drafts and have uncovered some gems there.

Our trading in last few years has been underwhelming - the two big headline trades excepted of course. Although their value is still to be proven. of the others - Morton (gone), Armstrong (going?), Andrejs (going?) and Walsh is very much a work in progress. We haven't yet worked out how best to use Tippet let alone Buddy. Our much vaunted knack for trading in recycled players has lost some of its shine in the last 3-4 years.

So sorry if my lack of "I trust management to know what they're doing" feelings is concerning to others but I'm yet to be convinced that we haven't lost some of our previous off-field mojo in the last couple of years.

[Doctor]

Although Morton barely played for us, we arguably wouldn't have won the Flag without him, so I rate him as a win. Everitt helped us a lot this year, so even if he goes he has done better than what we gave up for him (Vez). With you on the others though Jono.

[floppinab]

Whatever they are getting paid will result in us having to offload players that we might otherwise keep in the next few years. 'Overs' to the Swans will be in the context of a large amount of our salary cap going to 2 players and hence fewer dollars to spread round youngsters like Jed who we should have been holding on to. Not happy if the reports of him going are true.

Not necessarily Lamb, but it's the ability to retain players like the Johnston, Rohan, Hannebury and Parker in that sort of time frame, who would all feel entitled to reasonable contract upgrades. It's hard to see how that is going to be possible. You would think at least 1 maybe 2 of those four will go elsewhere for bigger money than the Swans will be able to afford due to cap constraints.

[GordonS]

lets just hope that the AFLPA gets a rise in the salary cap like its expected to at some point (economically, it has to increase in the coming years). therefore, buddy's contract will take up a smaller chunk of the salary cap. i think its highly plausible that his contract may not be as big as it seems in a few years, which is clearly what the swans management are banking on with a back-ended contract. i reckon it could very well be smaller than a number of other players in the league

[Mug Punter]

lets just hope that the AFLPA gets a rise in the salary cap like its expected to at some point (economically, it has to increase in the coming years). therefore, buddy's contract will take up a smaller chunk of the salary cap. i think its highly plausible that his contract may not be as big as it seems in a few years, which is clearly what the swans management are banking on with a back-ended contract. i reckon it could very well be smaller than a number of other players in the league

That is the strategy I believe. It's not inconceivable that he will not be the highest paid player in the league in 3-4 years time as the cap increases and clubs focus more on these key signings.

Of course the risk him being paid $1m a year a 36 when he could well be totally crocked is a risk that will not go away

[GordonS]

spot on

[Bloodthirsty]

Another departing Swan, and as I did with Jesse, here is Jed Lamb's doppelganger. Pretty much genetically identical as well:

Daniel Bonjour - Google Search

[giant]

This sort of things cheeses me off.

Once upon a time, it would've been hands off a young talented rookie unless the go home factor was at play. GWS have most to lose from playing these sorts of games.

And what is Lamb thinking? He's getting what I assume is only a marginal increase on salary (otherwise all the other 3 year players at GWS will have their hands out) to play with a team that looked at various times last year to be about reserve amateurs standard. He's not even certain of being in their best 22.

And when GWS is screaming out for some "hard-bodied experienced" footballers they take a scrawny kid with 12 games to his name.

I get that they're pissed off about the gazumping of Tippett & Franklin, but a drafting strategy based on "screwing the neighbours" seems unbelievably short-sighted.

This smacks of a lose/lose/lose deal to me, a tough combination to pull off! If they offer us anything less than their second rounder, we should tell them to #### off and let the selfish twat sweat it out in the PSD

[Auntie.Gerald]

not happy Jan ?

Sydney Swans statement - Jed Lamb - sydneyswans.com.au

?We will now work with GWS to ensure a trade can get finalised before Friday?s deadline.?