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  • Dosser
    Just wild about Harry
    • Mar 2011
    • 1833

    #61
    Did Brogan play footy as a lad or was it always basketball?

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    • Jewels
      On the Rookie List
      • Oct 2006
      • 3258

      #62
      Originally posted by aardvark
      What Wolfie neglected to mention was that he kicked it off the Harbor bridge at low tide!
      Originally posted by goswannies
      Meh ... Ben Graham was ok, but he was no Mark Bayes or Mark Browning. As long as Wolfie doesn't claim he can out kick those two, he can claim whatever he likes
      Originally posted by Triple B
      Massively bigger and it will make things VERY interesting in recruiting and talent scouting land because the pool of US basketballers is infinitely bigger than the pool of Canadian rugby players. Of course this was the point Reggi was making which prompted Captain Obvious' edition of 'Basketball for Dummies'...
      Originally posted by Industrial Fan
      My favourite is point 4.

      I genuinely had no idea it was a foul if you tackled someone on the basketball field.
      Originally posted by stellation
      Yep, pretty sure it's 50 metres if you do.

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      • Primmy
        Proud Tragic Swan
        • Apr 2008
        • 5970

        #63
        I'll second that...
        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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        • wolftone57
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2008
          • 5857

          #64
          Originally posted by Dosser
          Did Brogan play footy as a lad or was it always basketball?
          Brogan was brought up in a footy state and played Aussie Rules as a junior.

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          • Reggi
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 2718

            #65
            Originally posted by Triple B
            Massively bigger and it will make things VERY interesting in recruiting and talent scouting land because the pool f US basketballers is infinitely bigger than the pool of Canadian rugby players. Of course this was the point Reggi was making which prompted Captain Obvious' edition of 'Basketball for Dummies'...
            The pool of rugby players to basketball players is infinitesimal period. Basketball is a massive global sport. Rugby a tiny regional one. Basketballers have transitioned really well to Afl
            You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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            • wolftone57
              Veterans List
              • Aug 2008
              • 5857

              #66
              Originally posted by Ludwig
              Congratulations Wolfie on your new career as a NFL punter. Ben Graham could only average a bit over 50 metres in his NFL career, so you're way ahead of him already. I can hardly imagine what you might be capable of with a bit of practice. I think Ben Graham was getting around $3 mil a year. I'd hold out for $5 mil if I you were you.

              And don't forget to wear your helmet! We don't want you sounding like a blubbering idiot when you rejoin RWO after your gridiron career comes to an end.
              I did have a tail wind I must admit. Ben Graham kicked 69 yards with the Yank ball in the NFL and you also neglected to mention that he was restricted by the place of the ball when taking kicks. In other words his average comes down due to the lack of yardage for him to achieve. Her kicked the Yank ball 79.5 yards in a training exercise which was plastered all over the Australian news. I must also admit to it being yards at the time I kicked the Yank ball so probably not as far.

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              • wolftone57
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2008
                • 5857

                #67
                I really believe there are certain body types we should be looking for if we look to other sports. For instance I always Israel had the wrong body type for AFL, too blocky and thick set not athletic enough. It is not good to go the other way and just look at the athletic type either as they have proved to be less than successful at the skills side of the equation. In this article about body types you can see that the most successful players have generally come from the Mesomorph just looking at the physique. Other than Barney Matthews who is an Enodmorph the majority of players to win or come close to a Brownlow were Mesomorphs although some were Ectomorphs. If we go looking for players in other codes we should keep this in mind. This does not mean an Endomorph can't make it in AFL but it is harder these days than when Barney last played due to the pace of the game. Endomorphs (blocky go to fat easily & will be very wide in the shoulders & waist) make perfect NRL players and Ectomorphs (tend to be tall & slim) are perfect for basketball. Ectomorphs do well at AFL if they can gain weight, build up and have strength that belies their frame (Shaun Rehn).

                Your Body Type - Ectomorph, Mesomorph or Endomorph? | Muscle & Strength

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                • Ruck'n'Roll
                  Ego alta, ergo ictus
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3990

                  #68
                  Originally posted by wolftone57
                  I did have a tail wind I must admit. Ben Graham kicked 69 yards with the Yank ball in the NFL and you also neglected to mention that he was restricted by the place of the ball when taking kicks. In other words his average comes down due to the lack of yardage for him to achieve. Her kicked the Yank ball 79.5 yards in a training exercise which was plastered all over the Australian news. I must also admit to it being yards at the time I kicked the Yank ball so probably not as far.
                  Good reposte Wolfie!

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                  • lorakf
                    Pushing for Selection
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 53

                    #69
                    AFL Media's Callum Twomey tweeted today "Swans on the hunt for a mature ruck. Invited Sturt big man Angus Kurtze for a testing today but the 27-year-old lawyer declined. @AFLDraft"

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                    • ernie koala
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2007
                      • 3251

                      #70
                      Originally posted by lorakf
                      AFL Media's Callum Twomey tweeted today "Swans on the hunt for a mature ruck. Invited Sturt big man Angus Kurtze for a testing today but the 27-year-old lawyer declined. @AFLDraft"
                      Gee, you'd hope they had plans in place before now..Re a back up ruckman....

                      If this tweet is accurate, it's a little concerning that they didn't have a specific target already lined up.
                      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                      • Mug Punter
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 3325

                        #71
                        Originally posted by ernie koala
                        Gee, you'd hope they had plans in place before now..Re a back up ruckman....

                        If this tweet is accurate, it's a little concerning that they didn't have a specific target already lined up.
                        Indeed it would be....All will be revealed next week. The name Rory Lobb keepings on bobbing up but the truth is no one except Team Beatson knows what our plans are.

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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          #72
                          Looking for a mature ruckman indicates to me that we are not that interested in picking up a development ruckman in the ND. We haven't been interested in developing high draft pick ruckmen for quite some time. I think we just want to make it through next year and see how Naismith and Pat Mitchell pan out. If we needed to find a replacement for Pyke for a bit of time, LRT is probably a better bet than either of those 2 and probably any inexperienced ruckman we pick up in the draft as well.

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                          • Mug Punter
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 3325

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Ludwig
                            Looking for a mature ruckman indicates to me that we are not that interested in picking up a development ruckman in the ND. We haven't been interested in developing high draft pick ruckmen for quite some time. I think we just want to make it through next year and see how Naismith and Pat Mitchell pan out. If we needed to find a replacement for Pyke for a bit of time, LRT is probably a better bet than either of those 2 and probably any inexperienced ruckman we pick up in the draft as well.
                            That makes sense as I still think you need two senior ruckmen in the primary list. Not both in the starting 22 but both on the list. Also think you should also have a third string development project type player on the rookie list.

                            We have two project players and one ruckman who is untested re the rigours of a full AFL season leading the ruck duties. A decent plan B in the ruck stocks is required.

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                            • wolftone57
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 5857

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Mug Punter
                              That makes sense as I still think you need two senior ruckmen in the primary list. Not both in the starting 22 but both on the list. Also think you should also have a third string development project type player on the rookie list.

                              We have two project players and one ruckman who is untested re the rigours of a full AFL season leading the ruck duties. A decent plan B in the ruck stocks is required.
                              As if approaching a 27 year old from Sturt is going to actually help if Pykie does go down. Johnathon Giles was a mature age ruckman from SA and he took his time adapting from the SANFL to AFL. He still isn't seen as a first ruckman as the recruiting of Mummy reflects. I think we would be very silly to recruit any mature age ruck in the draft. If we were going to do this we could draft a mature age rookie. i personally don't like the idea as I think Taubert should be given new blood to mould and mature. By the way Giles would have been this blokes first ruck.

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                              • penga
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 2601

                                #75
                                Brent Renouf, anyone?
                                C'mon Chels!

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