Anyone worried about our ruck problems? Not now we have Derickx

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  • giant
    Veterans List
    • Mar 2005
    • 4731

    Originally posted by ugg
    The only memory I have of his 2 AFL games was playing in that Richmond v Gold Coast game in 2012 when the Suns kicked 2 very late goals to win, with Karmichael Hunt booting the winner on the siren. He made some dodgy play that led to a turnover for one of the goals and Roosy absolutely excoriated him for it on On The Couch. I'll see whether it's up on YouTube.i

    Here it is: 6m40sec in, 10 points up, drops a uncontested mark with 43 seconds to go leading to a turnover and Harbrow's goal.

    Great remembering Ugg! What a game that was.

    To be fair, the only thing I could recall about Josh Kennedy before he came was that terrible missed shot for goal that cost the Hawks a critical win.

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      I don't know what some people were expecting. We need to remember that Pyke is one of the best ruckmen in the league. He played every game last year. Was a leader in contested marks and was tied with Bellchambers with 28 for the most goals by a ruckman. Clearly the combination of Pyke and Tippett are the go for the ruck-forward rotation next year. We are not looking for someone to replace Pyke. We need someone who will play reserves footy most of the year and perhaps give Pyke a spell for a few games, or step up in case of injury. Now that sound like Tom Derickx to me. If he develops into a grade A ruckan under our tutelage, all the better, but not expecting too much. No ruckman in this draft is going to be a better backup than Tom for the 2014 season. He's had 3 years at an AFL club, so he knows the routine. We can reassess the ruck situation at the end of next season.

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        Originally posted by liz
        Sounds like a low risk, low cost insurance policy. Quite likely to be on a one year contract at close to minimum wage. Tom gets the chance to prove he's worth sticking with, and provides a strong bodied back-up just in case. Means that they don't have to count on Tippett playing extensively in the ruck if Pyke does get injured, and reduces the reliance on LRT in that role too, given he is also our number on back-up tall defender with AJ on the comeback from long term injury.

        It's said to be a shallow draft, so he also occupies a list spot for a year. If he doesn't show much, or if Naismith comes on quickly, his spot can be replaced in next year's draft if it looks to be a bit deeper.

        Sounds like a no lose solution.
        Agree 100%, if that wasn't already obvious from my previous posts.

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        • jono2707
          Goes up to 11
          • Oct 2007
          • 3326

          He'll be a handy stop-gap for a year before we sign Naitanui to a 9-year deal.....

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          • Jewels
            On the Rookie List
            • Oct 2006
            • 3258

            Originally posted by jono2707
            He'll be a handy stop-gap for a year before we sign Naitanui to a 9-year deal.....

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            • Steve
              Regular in the Side
              • Jan 2003
              • 676

              Derickx must be the best option prepared to relocate and play for minimum wage (and maybe just the 1-year contract) - simple as that. Looks as though we've approached various others to no avail.

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              • ernie koala
                Senior Player
                • May 2007
                • 3251

                Originally posted by Steve
                Derickx must be the best option prepared to relocate and play for minimum wage (and maybe just the 1-year contract) - simple as that. Looks as though we've approached various others to no avail.
                Yep, agree with your summary.

                Maybe the Swans also think GWS are likely to take Lobb at pick 14
                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                • wolftone57
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 5857

                  Originally posted by liz
                  Sounds like a low risk, low cost insurance policy. Quite likely to be on a one year contract at close to minimum wage. Tom gets the chance to prove he's worth sticking with, and provides a strong bodied back-up just in case. Means that they don't have to count on Tippett playing extensively in the ruck if Pyke does get injured, and reduces the reliance on LRT in that role too, given he is also our number on back-up tall defender with AJ on the comeback from long term injury.

                  It's said to be a shallow draft, so he also occupies a list spot for a year. If he doesn't show much, or if Naismith comes on quickly, his spot can be replaced in next year's draft if it looks to be a bit deeper.

                  Sounds like a no lose solution.
                  The other thing it does is take the stress of being one ruck in the reserves from Big Sammy. Before they drafted Derrickx we would have had to rely on the occasional game played by Jacob Dawes or another toppy ruck. this gives Sam the chance to develop his whole game not just his ruck game. If the bloke turns out to be ok then that is a bonus. I am glad to see we did not go down the Seaby track and have an ancient running around in the Twos. Rather get someone like this bloke, unloved and unwanted who wants to play and is still young enough to play a few years even if he is only a development ruckman for the likes of big Sammy.

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                  • caj23
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 2462

                    Originally posted by Steve
                    Derickx must be the best option prepared to relocate and play for minimum wage (and maybe just the 1-year contract) - simple as that. Looks as though we've approached various others to no avail.
                    Agree - although who would you be guessing would be the various others?

                    I can't think of any suitable candidates (Jolly and Hille are crocked, and I doubt Seaby would be willing to move across the country again for a 1 year contract on minimum wage)

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                    • chuckie
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 301

                      Originally posted by goswannies
                      Don't worry, Richmond never had Steve Taubert ... the Ruck Whisperer will turn 201cm Derickx into the next Wil Minson - but with a 2cm height advantage
                      Steve Taubert started as a full forward at Richmond.
                      Thank god we turned him into a ruckman cause he wouldn't have survived as a forward whisperer.

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                      • sidswan
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 206

                        Originally posted by jono2707
                        He'll be a handy stop-gap for a year before we sign Naitanui to a 9-year deal.....
                        Thankyou for my first laugh of today

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                        • Primmy
                          Proud Tragic Swan
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 5970

                          Joey and Ted couldn't get a gig either.

                          Big plus everyone. We have a Steve Taubert.
                          If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                          • Mug Punter
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 3325

                            I can only suggest that Taubert and our list management team see some value in this bloke. We're not into recruiting players not capable of playing first grade to the required standard. Does have the smell of being not our first choice though,

                            Guess it is low risk but I was really hoping for something akin to a like-for-like replacement for Mummy. Then again, I do not really think the two of them could have played together this season anyway so why have two decent earners when only one can play.

                            I'll trust the list management gurus - I guess the only consolation is we have a lot of part time ruck back up (KT, LRT, Goodesy even) and a young un that may come one strong.

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                            • Melbourne_Blood
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2010
                              • 3312

                              I highly doubt the club would risk such a bright KP prospect as Sammy Reid, but I daresay he'd be a pretty good part timer. His Leap and reach mean he'd get taps over many of the bigger guys out there, and his speed, endurance and ability below his knees Would make him effective when the ball is on the deck around stoppages. I'd like to see it, if just for a game to see how he'd go. Won't happen though.

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6480

                                a little patience with sammy Reid will go along way

                                seriously Reid, Buddy and the Tip will be just so much fun to watch !

                                add in Goodes, Rohan etc being focal points also and it is potentially one of the most astounding forward lines i can think of !
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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